Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag

2018-04-11 Thread teor 


> On 12 Apr 2018, at 10:12, Keifer Bly  wrote:
> 
> Thank you. What exactly does the stable flag do? I know what it means, the 
> relay has been online for the last few days without significant interruption, 
> which is why I lost it as I had the stable flag, I had had it before my 
> computer froze for about two hours and I did not realize that had happened 
> until it’s too late. I’m just hoping that it does not take too terribly long 
> for my relay to regain the stable flag, what’ strange though it my relay 
> seems to receive quite a lot of traffic when I do not have the stable flag as 
> well, according to the relay software receiving hundreds of megabytes at a 
> time, I thought only stable relays received bigger amounts of traffic.

"Stable" if the router is suitable for long-lived circuits.

https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2248

Clients use stable relays for preemptive circuits, and circuits to
long-lived ports.

T

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag

2018-04-11 Thread Keifer Bly 
Thank you. What exactly does the stable flag do? I know what it means, the 
relay has been online for the last few days without significant interruption, 
which is why I lost it as I had the stable flag, I had had it before my 
computer froze for about two hours and I did not realize that had happened 
until it’s too late. I’m just hoping that it does not take too terribly long 
for my relay to regain the stable flag, what’ strange though it my relay seems 
to receive quite a lot of traffic when I do not have the stable flag as well, 
according to the relay software receiving hundreds of megabytes at a time, I 
thought only stable relays received bigger amounts of traffic.


Thank you very much.

From: teor
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:34 PM
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On 12 Apr 2018, at 01:33, Keifer Bly <keifer@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a way I can find out what the current weighted mbtf is? Thank you.

The thresholds vary on each directory authority. They are
stable-uptime (~15 days) and stable-mtbf (~26 days) in this table:
https://consensus-health.torproject.org/#flagthresholds
Each figure is in seconds.

Your relay's uptime is listed in its descriptor, in its heartbeat
messages, or on relay search.

Your relay's weighted MTBF is different on each directory authority.
It isn't published by the directory authorities.

My advice: just keep your relay as stable as you can, and it will
probably get Stable. If it doesn't after a month or so, try a more
reliable provider.

Relay flags are chosen so clients get the best network experience.
Missing a few flags for a while doesn't really matter.

T



From: teor
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:30 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
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On 11 Apr 2018, at 20:54, Gary <jaffacakemonste...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.
 
Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind.
 
On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly <keifer@gmail.com> wrote:
 I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the 
stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable flag? 
 
I think it is about 4 days
 
That's the HSDir flag:
https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2524



but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can provide a more specific number.
 
Stable is based on weighted mean time before failure (MTBF).
 
A Stable relay must be either:
* higher than the median weighted MTBF, or
* have a weighted MTBF of more than 7 days.
 
As a quick guide, your relay should be up for 1-2 weeks to get Stable.
 
Here are the details:
https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2470
 
T
 
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag

2018-04-11 Thread teor 


> On 12 Apr 2018, at 01:33, Keifer Bly <keifer@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is there a way I can find out what the current weighted mbtf is? Thank you.

The thresholds vary on each directory authority. They are
stable-uptime (~15 days) and stable-mtbf (~26 days) in this table:
https://consensus-health.torproject.org/#flagthresholds
Each figure is in seconds.

Your relay's uptime is listed in its descriptor, in its heartbeat
messages, or on relay search.

Your relay's weighted MTBF is different on each directory authority.
It isn't published by the directory authorities.

My advice: just keep your relay as stable as you can, and it will
probably get Stable. If it doesn't after a month or so, try a more
reliable provider.

Relay flags are chosen so clients get the best network experience.
Missing a few flags for a while doesn't really matter.

T


> From: teor
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:30 AM
> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag
>  
>  
> 
> On 11 Apr 2018, at 20:54, Gary <jaffacakemonste...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello.
>  
> Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind.
>  
> On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly <keifer@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the 
> stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable 
> flag? 
>  
> I think it is about 4 days
>  
> That's the HSDir flag:
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2524
> 
> 
> but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can provide a more specific number.
>  
> Stable is based on weighted mean time before failure (MTBF).
>  
> A Stable relay must be either:
> * higher than the median weighted MTBF, or
> * have a weighted MTBF of more than 7 days.
>  
> As a quick guide, your relay should be up for 1-2 weeks to get Stable.
>  
> Here are the details:
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2470
>  
> T
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag

2018-04-11 Thread Keifer Bly 
Is there a way I can find out what the current weighted mbtf is? Thank you.

From: teor
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:30 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag



On 11 Apr 2018, at 20:54, Gary <jaffacakemonste...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.

Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind.

On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly <keifer@gmail.com> wrote:
 I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the 
stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable flag? 

I think it is about 4 days

That's the HSDir flag:
https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2524


but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can provide a more specific number.

Stable is based on weighted mean time before failure (MTBF).

A Stable relay must be either:
* higher than the median weighted MTBF, or
* have a weighted MTBF of more than 7 days.

As a quick guide, your relay should be up for 1-2 weeks to get Stable.

Here are the details:
https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2470

T

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag

2018-04-11 Thread teor 


> On 11 Apr 2018, at 20:54, Gary  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind.
> 
>> On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly  wrote:
>>  I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the 
>> stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable 
>> flag? 
>> 
> 
> I think it is about 4 days

That's the HSDir flag:
https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2524

> but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can provide a more specific number.

Stable is based on weighted mean time before failure (MTBF).

A Stable relay must be either:
* higher than the median weighted MTBF, or
* have a weighted MTBF of more than 7 days.

As a quick guide, your relay should be up for 1-2 weeks to get Stable.

Here are the details:
https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2470

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag

2018-04-11 Thread Gary 
Hello.

Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind.

On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly  wrote:

>  I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing
> the stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s
> stable flag?
>

I think it is about 4 days but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can
provide a more specific number.

Gary.
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