Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 06.04.2011 07:35, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote: On 05.04.2011 08:21, Aaron wrote: If you must have GMail, I've noticed that accounts created on android devices are not subject to these checks. And yes, even when using Tor via Orbot. You don't have an android phone? The following works too:

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 06.04.2011 10:12, grarpamp wrote: It would be nice to know how exactly the AVD is transmitted. I guess you could then easily fake the value without having to install the SDK. AVD (android virtual device)... sounds like a virtualbox instance. I don't believer it's 'transmitted' anywhere.

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
On 06.04.2011 08:40, Moritz Bartl wrote: On 06.04.2011 10:12, grarpamp wrote: It would be nice to know how exactly the AVD is transmitted. I guess you could then easily fake the value without having to install the SDK. AVD (android virtual device)... sounds like a virtualbox instance. I don't

[tor-talk] Tor and VOIP ( related to excito's b3)

2011-04-06 Thread Håken Hveem
To me, it looks like that the slower network rate of Tor will cause problems for SIP and VOIP applications. Will it be possible to specify a set of port ranges so traffic on those ports will not be routed to the Tor network ? A example : Telios VOIP solution uses ports 5060 to 5061(TLS)

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Praedor Atrebates
Could you elaborate a bit on this? After this discussion I went ahead and tried to create another anonymous gmail account and ran into the requires SMS hitch as discussed (and there is no option that I can see to bypass this via other means as others have described) I have no idea what

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Praedor Atrebates
Just a quick note...a nice, safe, easily anonymized email account can be had at safe-mail.net. No hoops to jump through, tor friendly. On Tuesday, April 05, 2011 01:52:31 am grarpamp wrote: Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to use a GMail account over

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/5/2011 11:10 PM, grarpamp wrote: What if you don't have a phone # to give them (or don't want to) - they just don't let you create an acct? In my tests to date (limited by free time), yes, that's what I said. FYI - I tried GMX w/ Tor couple days ago - worked just fine. Yes, free

[tor-talk] A question about TOR behavior

2011-04-06 Thread hikki
I decided to check if the StrictEntryNodes and EntryNodes functions worked, so I started to log my TOR connections. They did work, and TOR connects to the entry nodes specified, but TOR also connects to other nodes now and then while running. If you specify your own entry nodes, shouldn't TOR

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and VOIP ( related to excito's b3)

2011-04-06 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
On 06.04.2011 12:00, Håken Hveem wrote: To me, it looks like that the slower network rate of Tor will cause problems for SIP and VOIP applications. Will it be possible to specify a set of port ranges so traffic on those ports will not be routed to the Tor network ? A example : Telios

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
On 06.04.2011 13:28, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Could you elaborate a bit on this? After this discussion I went ahead and tried to create another anonymous gmail account and ran into the requires SMS hitch as discussed (and there is no option that I can see to bypass this via other means as

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
On 06.04.2011 13:37, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Just a quick note...a nice, safe, easily anonymized email account can be had at safe-mail.net. No hoops to jump through, tor friendly. I know and sometimes use it for some purposes. But they give their users only 3 Mb and they let use their

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Aaron
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Orionjur Tor-admin tor-ad...@orionjurinform.com wrote: On 06.04.2011 08:40, Moritz Bartl wrote: On 06.04.2011 10:12, grarpamp wrote: It would be nice to know how exactly the AVD is transmitted. I guess you could then easily fake the value without having to

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and VOIP ( related to excito's b3)

2011-04-06 Thread intrigeri
Håken Hveem wrote (06 Apr 2011 12:00:57 GMT) : To me, it looks like that the slower network rate of Tor will cause problems for SIP and VOIP applications. Doable, see this thread in the list archive: http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Dec-2010/msg00147.html Bye, -- intrigeri intrig...@boum.org

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Aaron
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:38 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: If you must have GMail, I've noticed that accounts created on android devices are not subject to these checks. And yes, even when using Tor via Orbot. Since using your android is, afaik, the same as giving them your phone

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Praedor Atrebates
I have the SDK installed and have run an emulator...not sure what to do with it though. I cannot transmit messages (or anything) and cannot receive anything (to what number would it go to in any case?). praedor On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 01:00:42 pm Orionjur Tor-admin wrote: On 06.04.2011

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Aaron
The workaround is for creating new accounts; not for receiving SMS verification of existing accounts (unfortunately). If you need a throwaway number for SMS there are a number of VOIP services that might be useful and could probably be purchased using a prepay card if you want to do it

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Aaron
One thing you could test is adding your existing google account (one pending SMS verification) to the android emulator and see if that has any effect. It's pretty much the same process I outlined before, except hit the 'add existing' option rather than 'create new' --Aaron On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 06.04.2011 22:54, Aaron wrote: If you need a throwaway number for SMS there are a number of VOIP services that might be useful and could probably be purchased using a prepay card if you want to do it anonymously. OT: I have recently registered a VOIP number and mistakenly entered the wrong

[tor-talk] Realtime tor tools. ARM, etc.

2011-04-06 Thread grarpamp
If you'd like to dig in further then I'd suggest giving arm a shot [1][2] [1] http://www.atagar.com/arm/ [2] http://www.atagar.com/transfer/tmp/armScreenshot-1.4.2.png Holy shit! This looks cool :) Definitely going to check it out. Thanks! I can't speak for anyone else or torproject, but I

Re: [tor-talk] geocaching.com and okcupid.com doesn't allow access via TOR

2011-04-06 Thread grarpamp
OKCupid doesn't allow you to log in. The error is password invalid. I can confirm as of last weekend that OKCupid does in fact allow all functions from account creation, to usage, to deletion, via Tor. HOWEVER, on depending on the exit, you will be outright blocked from the site and presented

Re: [tor-talk] geocaching.com and okcupid.com doesn't allow access via TOR

2011-04-06 Thread Joel Knighton
I can confirm that www.geocaching.com, www.waymarking.com, and www.wherigo.com have been abused by someone using Tor. They are currently investigating the abuse and attempting to bring legal action against abusers, so that is likely the reason for a potential block. All the best, Joel Knighton

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread grarpamp
I do think it's ridiculous to need a phone to get a webmail account. I just don't like their apparent stance requiring SMS/voice auth. What I don't understand is hating on Google but still wanting to use their webmail service. As mentioned earlier, it's a perception thing. And of course all

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread grarpamp
I usually require https (creation and management), imaps (retrieval), smtps/submission (sending), no automatic addition of addresses to 'contact' lists when sent via web or smtp, and an outright account deletion function. I meant to include with this: no inclusion of source IP/FQDN in the

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Aaron
On Apr 6, 2011 4:42 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: I do think it's ridiculous to need a phone to get a webmail account. I just don't like their apparent stance requiring SMS/voice auth. What I don't understand is hating on Google but still wanting to use their webmail service.

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Aaron
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Aaron aag...@extc.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:38 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: If you must have GMail, I've noticed that accounts created on android devices are not subject to these checks. And yes, even when using Tor via Orbot. Since using

Re: [tor-talk] GSOC Ideas.

2011-04-06 Thread Ian Foster
Hello Everyone, I'v submitted my first GSOC proposal to the Google Melange site. It is proposing an update of TorStatus to work with Metrics. I am aware that this may not be the highest priority for the community so I plan to submit an alternate proposal too. I would greatly appreciate any

[tor-talk] About the use of TorBulkExitList.py locally.

2011-04-06 Thread Hongsheng Zhao
Hi all, I can use the following command to obtain the exit list for my ip: https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=222.75.27.212 But, on the webpage: https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py, I can find the following instructions: --- If