Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)

2013-04-29 Thread Andrew Lewman
This guy is annoying. He's been emailing any address at Tor he can find. I'm not responding to him any more. Basically, he's asking for money to keep our wiki clean. He's implied in the past that if we don't pay him, we'll be spammed ruthlessly. On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:13:14 +0400 torwiki

[tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
Tor has a rather severe reputation problem at the moment. Given the recent revelations around malware on the network, and the pervasiveness of pedophilia, I think we should consider a course of action to help boost the network's PR. For one - while nobody is interested in acting as the police

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 08:51:32PM +0200, Guido Witmond wrote: However, given the nature of onion sites, I don't know how the police investigators could track and take down the source without defeating the anonymity of Tor.

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
Can't agree with this. You can get OnionBrowser for pretty much any platform. Download and run, end of story. I grabbed it for my iPad and within a minute I was up and running. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:46 PM, David Vorick david.vor...@gmail.comwrote: Part of the problem is that Tor is

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 03:30:37PM -0400, Chris Patti wrote: What about simply scouring all the directories, removing links to the pedo sites? Please do! That said, you're already falling into a trap when you say all the directories. I know the person who ran the hidden wiki -- he shut it down

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/29/2013 12:32 PM, Chris Patti wrote: Tor has a rather severe reputation problem at the moment. Given the recent revelations around malware on the network, and the pervasiveness of pedophilia, I think we should consider a course of action to help boost the network's PR. For one - while

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread h0ost
Calls such as these, to begin systematic attempts at flagging directories and removing links, are nothing but thinly disguised attempts at imposing censorship and control on the Tor network. Let's be honest and call it what it is. On 04/29/2013 04:03 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: On Mon, Apr 29,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
For what it's worth, OnionBrowser is open sourced, it is for Apple platforms: https://github.com/mtigas/iOS-OnionBrowser My point was that using Tor need not be inconvenient at all. I agree that there's a need for a hidden services directory, but I gather from what I've read that doing this

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
OK, you're right. That's a bad idea - what about clearly labeling the pedo sites as pedo sites? And once again, please note I am in no way suggesting that *the Tor project* undertake this effort, but that people who operate the hidden directories might consider making it a little easier for new

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Guido Witmond
On 04/29/2013 10:19 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Chris, I agree in principal - about all sorts of illegal activity. But how could that be done w/o *someone* overseeing all the internet deciding what should / shouldn't be accessible, becoming judge jury? I don't know a good solution to this old

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Juan Garofalo
I recognize that free speech means free speech for everyone, even those with views that we find objectionable, but there's nothing to stop the community from turning a cold shoulder to these people who see informed consent as being an optional or academic concept. Public relations,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread mirimir
On 04/29/2013 08:29 PM, Chris Patti wrote: OK, you're right. That's a bad idea - what about clearly labeling the pedo sites as pedo sites? Maybe Tor-optimized-Firefox needs a default safe browsing plugin. Also, maybe at least some pedo, etc .onion sites would voluntarily label themselves.

[tor-talk] Anonymous Blogging with Tor and Wordpress?

2013-04-29 Thread Jennifer Parsons
Hello, everyone. :) First of all, I just want to give a huge thanks to everyone who's involved with Tor. Ever since I started using it, I have felt a refreshing sense of freedom and empowerment that I did not at all anticipate when I downloaded the Tor Browser. I am now speaking up boldly on

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymous Blogging with Tor and Wordpress?

2013-04-29 Thread adrelanos
Hi Jennifer! Jennifer Parsons: The source that I see splashed everywhere is Ethan Zuckerman's guide, but that hasn't been updated since 2009--practically 10,000 years ago in internet time. The guide is here: http://advocacy.globalvoicesonline.org/projects/guide/ Agreed. - Is the

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread grarpamp
What about a simpler solution? Can you stamp them out? What, like genocide? Various parts of the world tried that at various times in history, it doesn't really work. Neither did the wars on drugs, terrorism, guns, copyright or any other attempt in history to stamp whatever it was they tried to

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Griffin Boyce
David Vorick david.vor...@gmail.com wrote: Part of the problem is that Tor is really inconvenient to use. The only people who hang out on Tor are criminals because generally, it's only worth the trouble if you are a criminal. Well, I guess I'll just tell all of the public health activists I