Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread Mike Perry
Matt Pagan: On 6/16/13, Andreas Krey a.k...@gmx.de wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: ... For everyone who is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor installed? If so, if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? Not sure what 'system

Re: [tor-talk] Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN

2013-06-16 Thread Lunar
e...@tormail.org: Is it possible to do Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN i.e. My connection - OpenVPN - Tor ? The purpose of this would be to stop the ISP from seeing that Tor is being used. If that's your goal, I strongly suggest using obfsucated bridges instead:

Re: [tor-talk] Firefox Portable and Access Denied on Lock File (Windows, x64) (Was: Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds)

2013-06-16 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 16.06.2013 07:20, Jeffrey Walton wrote: In this case, FirefoxPortable should probably be writing its lock file to a temporary directory or the User's application data directory The idea is not to leave any traces outside the Tor Browser Bundle directory. TBB is not meant to be installed into

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread Andreas Krey
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 23:05:12 +, Mike Perry wrote: ... Are any of you who experience crashes installing to the Desktop (the default)? I have it in the desktop, just renamed the folder (and did installation and execution as the same user). But I will try a different machine on monday; this

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread Arjan
On 2013-06-15 04:39, Mike Perry wrote: The new TBB 3.0 series is almost ready for its first alpha release! Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to post them on the blog by Monday, unless something goes horribly wrong.

[tor-talk] Third-party QAs

2013-06-16 Thread Sebastian G. bastik.tor
Hi, I'd like to raise concerns about third-party QAs and discuss them. This is independent from stackexchange. (I don't mind using stackexchange) Points regarding third-party operated and/or hosted QAs Advantages: - No server costs - No bandwidth costs - No installing or updating software -

[tor-talk] Stackexchange QA, Guidelines

2013-06-16 Thread Sebastian G. bastik.tor
Hello, I'd like to raise awareness and discuss the scope Stackexchange has (or seems to have). Initially I planed to await a reply by Runa, but now I assume that there's no reason to just wait for a reply. Runa will be still able to reply. Regarding the use-case and their guidelines. The FAQ

[tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-16 Thread Sebastian G. bastik.tor
Hi, to get this nice and clean a third topic. No further topic regarding QA will follow today. You had ask.TPO with Askbot already running and it is still running. All it seems to take is an active community that feeds it with questions and answers them. Do you plan to use Stackexchange

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread lists
This is also the case with tor-browser-linux32-3.0-alpha-1_fa.tar.xz - no text is displayed on the first screen that opens after running the program, and both the 'connect' and 'configure' buttons are blank. Arjan: On 2013-06-15 04:39, Mike Perry wrote: The new TBB 3.0 series is almost ready

Re: [tor-talk] Third-party QAs

2013-06-16 Thread adrelanos
Hi! I'd like to raise concerns about third-party QAs and discuss them. I was also wondering [1] about that already. After all the years of arguing over a forum, you now finally end up using some free service with no control about its servers? Didn't the trac ticket say, you have sponsoring for

Re: [tor-talk] Third-party QAs

2013-06-16 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:09 AM, adrelanos adrela...@riseup.net wrote: Hi! [...] Well, I guess having any non-ideal Q/A forum is better than forever having no Q/A forum. Hi, Adrelanos! You have hit the nail on the head with that part. So because I'm not principally involved with the

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread Micah Lee
On 06/15/2013 07:22 PM, Mike Perry wrote: And do you think it would be possible to only update RecommendedTBBVersions when there's an associated tarball available for download in a predictable place so that we don't get into a situation where there's an updated version but TBL can't find

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-16 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi bastik, It was decided that we have no resources to maintain our own QA, and that having a third-party QA is better than none. I disagree, but that's not the point. I agree that the community should have been involved in this process more. In the end, from what I see, most Tor developers have

Re: [tor-talk] Firefox Portable and Access Denied on Lock File (Windows, x64) (Was: Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds)

2013-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote: On 16.06.2013 07:20, Jeffrey Walton wrote: In this case, FirefoxPortable should probably be writing its lock file to a temporary directory or the User's application data directory The idea is not to leave any traces

[tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha is out

2013-06-16 Thread Roger Dingledine
Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha fixes a variety of potential remote crash vulnerabilities, makes socks5 username/password circuit isolation actually actually work (this time for sure!), and cleans up a bunch of other issues in preparation for a release candidate. https://www.torproject.org/dist/ Changes in

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-16 Thread Sebastian G. bastik.tor
16.06.2013 20:38, Moritz Bartl: Hi Moritz, It was decided that we have no resources to maintain our own QA, and that having a third-party QA is better than none. I disagree, but that's not the point. I'm not sure what you disagree with. That there are not enough resources? That it is

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-16 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 16.06.2013 21:33, Sebastian G. bastik.tor wrote: It was decided that we have no resources to maintain our own QA, and that having a third-party QA is better than none. I disagree, but that's not the point. I'm not sure what you disagree with. That there are not enough resources? That it

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-16 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Jun 16, 2013 4:38 PM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote: On 16.06.2013 21:33, Sebastian G. bastik.tor wrote: It was decided that we have no resources to maintain our own QA, and that having a third-party QA is better than none. I disagree, but that's not the point. I'm not sure

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha is out

2013-06-16 Thread Mike Perry
Roger Dingledine: Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha fixes a variety of potential remote crash vulnerabilities, makes socks5 username/password circuit isolation actually actually work (this time for sure!), and cleans up a bunch of other issues in preparation for a release candidate.

Re: [tor-talk] Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN

2013-06-16 Thread mirimir
On 06/16/2013 07:53 AM, Lunar wrote: e...@tormail.org: Is it possible to do Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN i.e. My connection - OpenVPN - Tor ? The purpose of this would be to stop the ISP from seeing that Tor is being used. If that's your goal, I strongly suggest using obfsucated

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha is out

2013-06-16 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:18:47 -0700 Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote: Roger Dingledine: Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha fixes a variety of potential remote crash vulnerabilities, makes socks5 username/password circuit isolation actually actually work (this time for sure!), and cleans up a bunch

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha is out

2013-06-16 Thread krishna e bera
On 13-06-16 06:49 PM, Roman Mamedov wrote: On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:18:47 -0700 Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote: Roger Dingledine: Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha fixes a variety of potential remote crash vulnerabilities, makes socks5 username/password circuit isolation actually actually work

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha is out

2013-06-16 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Roman Mamedov r...@romanrm.ru wrote: On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:18:47 -0700 Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote: Roger Dingledine: Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha fixes a variety of potential remote crash vulnerabilities, makes socks5 username/password circuit

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha is out

2013-06-16 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:55 PM, krishna e bera k...@cyblings.on.ca wrote: What if relays revert to the stable 0.2.3.latest for now? Personally, I'd suggest that relays just stick with 0.2.4.12-alpha and wait 0.2.4.14-alpha: we should have it out pretty darn soon. -- Nick

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha is out

2013-06-16 Thread Andrew F
Congratulations to all the contributers and project managers. Thanks for all the hard work you have put in on this up date Andrew On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.orgwrote: Roger Dingledine: Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha fixes a variety of potential remote crash

Re: [tor-talk] Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN

2013-06-16 Thread ef2k
The simplest solution would be to use a VM. Run the VPN client on the host machine, and the Tor setup in the VM. You could also run the VPN client in a pfSense VM, and the Tor setup in another VM that uses the pfSense VM as its LAN router. This wouldn't work for me, I only have access to an

Re: [tor-talk] Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN

2013-06-16 Thread adrelanos
e...@tormail.org: I am worried about this. It's why I don't want to rely on obfuscated bridges to hide my Tor usage, as they're not private and one day I could get flagged as using Tor if the ISP/military/police is monitoring connections to the bridge that I'm using at the time. VPN seems to

Re: [tor-talk] Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN

2013-06-16 Thread ef2k
e...@tormail.org: I am worried about this. It's why I don't want to rely on obfuscated bridges to hide my Tor usage, as they're not private and one day I could get flagged as using Tor if the ISP/military/police is monitoring connections to the bridge that I'm using at the time. VPN seems to

[tor-talk] EntryNodes breaks new alpha TBB?

2013-06-16 Thread strange-island
I emailed one of the developers about this but it seems fairer to ask the group. Is there any reason why setting an EntryNodes configuration in the torrc for the new alpha TBBs would prevent the browser from opening at all? This is the only part of the configuration I have altered. The loading

Re: [tor-talk] Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN

2013-06-16 Thread ef2k
If you run a VPN client and Tor client on the same machine, you will connect to the Tor network through the VPN. I should have mentioned that in my initial reply. Could you take a look at my iptables rules ? I don't have much knowledge of firewalls and I am not good at writing them myself, so I

Re: [tor-talk] Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN

2013-06-16 Thread mirimir
On 06/17/2013 12:26 AM, adrelanos wrote: e...@tormail.org: I am worried about this. It's why I don't want to rely on obfuscated bridges to hide my Tor usage, as they're not private and one day I could get flagged as using Tor if the ISP/military/police is monitoring connections to the bridge

Re: [tor-talk] Tor transparent proxying over OpenVPN

2013-06-16 Thread adrelanos
e...@tormail.org: e...@tormail.org: I am worried about this. It's why I don't want to rely on obfuscated bridges to hide my Tor usage, as they're not private and one day I could get flagged as using Tor if the ISP/military/police is monitoring connections to the bridge that I'm using at the

Re: [tor-talk] Third-party QAs

2013-06-16 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:03:13 +0200 Sebastian G. bastik.tor bastik@googlemail.com wrote: I'd like to raise concerns about third-party QAs and discuss them. We've had this discussion for the past year or so, see https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/5995 and

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-16 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:04:08 +0200 Sebastian G. bastik.tor bastik@googlemail.com wrote: You had ask.TPO with Askbot already running and it is still running. All it seems to take is an active community that feeds it with questions and answers them. The askbot software needs work itself,

Re: [tor-talk] EntryNodes breaks new alpha TBB?

2013-06-16 Thread strange-island
I solved my own problem - the relevant log sections are these: Jun 17 x:16:45.000 [warn] Failed to open GEOIP file ./Data/Tor/geoip. We've been configured to use (or avoid) nodes in certain countries, and we need GEOIP information to figure out which ones they are. Jun 17 x:16:45.000 [warn]