[tor-talk] Including Tor into millions of products. (was: Andrew's May 2014)

2014-06-14 Thread Sebastian G. bastik.tor
Andrew wrote: # Highlights (...) - Talked to three hardware companies looking to integrate Tor into their products. Estimated customer based is thousands to 75 million devices. - Talked to two software companies looking to integrate Tor into their products. Estimated customer base is 8

[tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations (was: Andrew's May 2014)

2014-06-14 Thread Sebastian G. bastik.tor
Andrew wrote: # Highlights (...) - Looked into legality of receiving a large financial donation from a country on the US Treasury embargoed list. Unsurprisingly, we cannot accept such a donation due to the source. That has to be a violation of your rights. Whatever country gives you money

[tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Chen Cecilia Zhang
If I draft an email and set the sending time as some time later, say 1 month later. Everything done by Tor web, 1 month later, if the email has been sent, the IP address would be anonymous or not? -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go

Re: [tor-talk] Craigslist now giving Tor the slows, lol

2014-06-14 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Mirimir miri...@riseup.net wrote: using something like liburi-fetch-perl, yes? A little reading tells me Fetch, wget, curl, elinks, lynx, printf depending on some features like cookies. Mostly wget with Mozilla Windows agent string. Sorry, I wasn't clear. I

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Chen Cecilia Zhang chenceciliazh...@gmail.com wrote: If I draft an email and set the sending time as some time later, say 1 month later. Everything done by Tor web, 1 month later, if the email has been sent, the IP address would be anonymous or not? If

Re: [tor-talk] how to automatically update torbrowser-launcher

2014-06-14 Thread Nusenu
so I'm wondering how do you keep your Torbrowser-launcher up to date? at least debian sid users will be able to use aptitude for that.. https://twitter.com/micahflee/status/476818619905495040 -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Chen Cecilia Zhang
Thanks for the reply. I meant doing everything through Tor browser write an email but set the sending date as 1 month later. Then closed the Tor browser. Just wonder if the email send automatically by itself 1 month later, the IP is still anonymous? or it's shows the IP / Location/ Machine?

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Chen Cecilia Zhang
Thanks for the reply. I meant doing everything through Tor browser write an email but set the sending date as 1 month later. Then closed the Tor browser. Just wonder if the email send automatically by itself 1 month later, the IP is still anonymous? or it's shows the IP / Location/

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Sebastian G. bastik.tor
grarpamp: On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Chen Cecilia Zhang chenceciliazh...@gmail.com wrote: If I draft an email and set the sending time as some time later, say 1 month later. Everything done by Tor web, 1 month later, if the email has been sent, the IP address would be anonymous or not?

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread Sebastian G. bastik.tor
Mirimir: On 06/14/2014 01:21 AM, Sebastian G. bastik.tor wrote: If payed contribution is ruled out for that donor (whoever that is), because of its country how could the money get to you? Maybe the donor gives it to some middle-man that is not on the blacklist. The middle-man then transfers

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Chen Cecilia Zhang chenceciliazh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the reply. I meant doing everything through Tor browser write an email but set the sending date as 1 month later. Then closed the Tor browser. Just wonder if the email send automatically by

Re: [tor-talk] Case examples of people deanonymized while using Tor?

2014-06-14 Thread Артур Истомин
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 07:58:19AM -0400, Adrian Crenshaw wrote: In hindsight, most don't have time to watch, so here are the slides if you want to wade through them: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfen626aruv89b3/Dropping%20Docs%20on%20Darknets%20How%20People%20Got%20Caught.pptx Thank you very

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Chen Cecilia Zhang
No software to compose email, as you mentioned, just normal email account such as yahoo. The reason i wonder is even the email was composed within tor browser, but the email was actually sent 1 month later, will that show the actual IP address? On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Sebastian G.

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Chen Cecilia Zhang
and the strange thing is : I tried to test the email sending from Tor and without Tor browser, and the IP address shows in the original email from gmail are the same Will anyone help explain how come? thansks On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Chen Cecilia Zhang chenceciliazh...@gmail.com

Re: [tor-talk] Craigslist now giving Tor the slows, lol

2014-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/14/2014 12:51 AM, grarpamp wrote: If other sites are loading similarly slow it may be possible to find out why or what is being used to do it. *CL never replies to support queries.* I have found answers to Craigslist issues on their users forum - sometimes direct replies to my post. The

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/14/2014 2:21 AM, Sebastian G. bastik.tor wrote: Andrew wrote: # Highlights (...) - Looked into legality of receiving a large financial donation from a country on the US Treasury embargoed list. Unsurprisingly, we cannot accept such a donation due to the source. That has to be a

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/14/2014 4:30 AM, Chen Cecilia Zhang wrote: Thanks for the reply. I meant doing everything through Tor browser write an email but set the sending date as 1 month later. Then closed the Tor browser. Just wonder if the email send automatically by itself 1 month later, the IP is still

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/14/2014 6:33 AM, Chen Cecilia Zhang wrote: and the strange thing is : I tried to test the email sending from Tor and without Tor browser, and the IP address shows in the original email from gmail are the same Will anyone help explain how come? thansks On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 4:22 AM,

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread Collin Anderson
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: I'm not a legal or embargo rules expert, but I wonder if an embargoed country or individuals in it, giving money to a non-profit for which they receive nothing valuable, or that benefits the country financially,

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 06/14/2014 01:33 PM, Chen Cecilia Zhang wrote: and the strange thing is : I tried to test the email sending from Tor and without Tor browser, and the IP address shows in the original email from gmail are the same How would you think Gmail (as in this example) can know your IP address,

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/14/2014 12:32 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote: On 06/14/2014 01:33 PM, Chen Cecilia Zhang wrote: and the strange thing is : I tried to test the email sending from Tor and without Tor browser, and the IP address shows in the original email from gmail are the same How would you think Gmail (as

Re: [tor-talk] Tor trademark policy for local user communities

2014-06-14 Thread Martin Kepplinger
Am 12.06.2014 04:05 schrieb Helder Ribeiro: Hi, I'm thinking of starting a forum for tor users in a specific geography and append its name to tor as, for example, ruby-sp is a group for ruby users in Sao Paulo. Is that allowed? Could torsp, for instance, be used as a domain name? Thanks!

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: Using webmail vs. an email client (like Thunderbird) may not be as convenient, but eliminating the client means one less thing that could possibly compromise anonymity. First, a 'webmail' browser (IE, FF, mac) and an

Re: [tor-talk] Craigslist now giving Tor the slows, lol

2014-06-14 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: I have found answers to Craigslist issues on their users forum - sometimes direct replies to my post. The more technical aspects of this issue may be beyond many users' knowledge on that forum, but someone may be able to

Re: [tor-talk] Craigslist now giving Tor the slows, lol

2014-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/14/2014 5:07 PM, grarpamp wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: I have found answers to Craigslist issues on their users forum - sometimes direct replies to my post. The more technical aspects of this issue may be beyond many users' knowledge on

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread krishna e bera
On 14-06-14 01:00 PM, Collin Anderson wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: I'm not a legal or embargo rules expert, but I wonder if an embargoed country or individuals in it, giving money to a non-profit for which they receive nothing valuable, or

Re: [tor-talk] Sending email from Tor browser

2014-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/14/2014 4:26 PM, grarpamp wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: Using webmail vs. an email client (like Thunderbird) may not be as convenient, but eliminating the client means one less thing that could possibly compromise anonymity. First, a

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/14/2014 5:50 PM, krishna e bera wrote: On 14-06-14 01:00 PM, Collin Anderson wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: I'm not a legal or embargo rules expert, but I wonder if an embargoed country or individuals in it, giving money to a non-profit

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread Mirimir
On 06/14/2014 06:29 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: SNIP It's OK for an organization dedicated to providing anonymity to protect users - everywhere, in no small part from various gov't agencies, to take major funding from... a gov't agency. Yet, that organization can't take *private* donations from

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 06/14/2014 03:21 AM, Sebastian G. bastik.tor wrote: That has to be a violation of your rights. It's the law in the USA. Regardless of how one feels about it, it's currently against the law. The citizen resided in a country as listed as a State Sponsor of Terrorism,

Re: [tor-talk] Including Tor into millions of products.

2014-06-14 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 06/14/2014 03:09 AM, Sebastian G. bastik.tor wrote: The questions that pop in my head are: 1) What kind of products are that? (Businesses or End-Consumer market?) Yes and yes. 2) What is the intended use-case? (Usage of the Tor network? Contribution to the Tor network? Both?) Privacy

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/14/2014 7:56 PM, Mirimir wrote: On 06/14/2014 06:29 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: SNIP It's OK for an organization dedicated to providing anonymity to protect users - everywhere, in no small part from various gov't agencies, to take major funding from... a gov't agency. Yet, that organization

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread Mirimir
On 06/14/2014 09:42 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 6/14/2014 7:56 PM, Mirimir wrote: On 06/14/2014 06:29 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: SNIP It's OK for an organization dedicated to providing anonymity to protect users - everywhere, in no small part from various gov't agencies, to take major funding

Re: [tor-talk] Non-free country law preventing Tor from getting donations

2014-06-14 Thread Mirimir
On 06/14/2014 09:40 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On 06/14/2014 03:21 AM, Sebastian G. bastik.tor wrote: That has to be a violation of your rights. It's the law in the USA. Regardless of how one feels about it, it's currently against the law. The citizen resided in a country as listed as a