Re: [tor-talk] visa.com blocked // livejournal.com

2014-07-03 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Roman wrote: On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 04:15:37 - Paul wrote: It appears to me that xxx is blocking access to its site by users using TOR. On an unrelated note, yesterday a user reported they can't access a blog on livejournal.com via Tor. Even not trying to

Re: [tor-talk] visa.com blocked

2014-07-03 Thread C B
Confirmed. One of many that provides the same error message: Access Denied You don't have permission to access http://www.visa.com/; on this server. Reference #xxx (not shown) HTMLHEAD TITLEAccess Denied/TITLE /HEADBODY H1Access Denied/H1 You don't have permission

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-03 Thread C B
When Edith Windsor approached Roberta Kaplan to take her case after she had been forced to pay $363,053 in estate taxes only because she had been married to a woman, instead of a man, she offered to pay for the defense, and Roberta immediately agreed to take the case and immediately said, no we

Re: [tor-talk] High-latency hidden services (was: Re: Secure Hidden Service

2014-07-03 Thread str4d
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/03/2014 05:12 PM, grarpamp wrote: High-latency web browsing is actually a great use case and could benefit from the extra security. Apps like Pocket (http://getpocket.com/) work as a read it later queue, downloading things for offline

Re: [tor-talk] High-latency hidden services (was: Re: Secure Hidden Service

2014-07-03 Thread Aymeric Vitte
Maybe one day, something like Peersm combined with [1] in order to follow/or use [2] and [3] (don't focus on google developing this here, these concepts are the only way to really secure a web page) Basically you fetch the web page with something like Peersm, then retarget it in a sandboxed

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-03 Thread Lunar
MacLemon: German language Austrian Legalese background: Austrian E-Commerce Law §15: Ausschluss der Verantwortlichkeit bei Zwischenspeicherungen http://j.mp/1iYdg4L § 15. Ein Diensteanbieter, der von einem Nutzer eingegebene Informationen in einem Kommunikationsnetz übermittelt, ist für

[tor-talk] Does an Exit Node will be tagged with an Exit flag?

2014-07-03 Thread Bron Taylor
Hi there, I used the TorDNSEL to verify an ip address of an exit node whether I can sent some kind of traffic through that node and found something is weired. First the information of the node can be found in the cached consensus file on my system with running a tor client.

[tor-talk] Does an Exit Node will be tagged with an Exit flag?

2014-07-03 Thread Bron Taylor
Hi there, I used the TorDNSEL to verify an ip address of an exit node whether I can sent some kind of traffic through that node and found something is weired. First the information of the node can be found in the cached consensus file on my system with running a tor client.

Re: [tor-talk] Does an Exit Node will be tagged with an Exit flag?

2014-07-03 Thread ra
On Thursday 03 July 2014 11:06:15 Bron Taylor wrote: p accept 25,110,119,143,443,465,995 252.94.2.188.25.27.196.125.74.ip-port.exitlist.torproject.org. 1799 IN A 127.0.0.2 from Google Public DNS. Moreover, the answer from TorDNSEL told that the node with the ip address 188.2.94.252 is an

[tor-talk] XKeyscore-Quellcode: more english details requested

2014-07-03 Thread coderman
request for more (english speaking) details on QUELLCODE part of XKeyScore(XKS) http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/nsa/us-geheimdienst-spionierte-deutschen-studenten-aus-36657402.bild.html specifically subsequent tasking associated with selected anonyms... -- tor-talk mailing list -

Re: [tor-talk] XKeyscore-Quellcode: more english details requested

2014-07-03 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Hi, On 7/3/14, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: request for more (english speaking) details on QUELLCODE part of XKeyScore(XKS) http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/nsa/us-geheimdienst-spionierte-deutschen-studenten-aus-36657402.bild.html specifically subsequent tasking associated with

Re: [tor-talk] (no subject) HTTPS Everywhere

2014-07-03 Thread krishna e bera
On 14-07-02 10:59 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote: ideas buenas writes: Why is markmonitor.com and its derivates in my TBB? How can I do to delete this ? Are they watching me? Hi, Are you talking about seeing a markmonitor.com rule in the HTTPS Everywhere Enable/Disable Rules menu?

[tor-talk] Yahoo bounces Re: Fw: confirm [whatever]

2014-07-03 Thread krishna e bera
The same thing happened to Yahoo and AOL users in tor-relays: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2014-June/004752.html To summarize, your only practical remedy at this time is to use an email address not on Yahoo or AOL. On 14-07-01 04:41 PM, Bobby Brewster wrote: What does this

Re: [tor-talk] Benefits of Running TBB in a VM?

2014-07-03 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 03/07/14 04:39 + - scarp: Most attacks about breaking out of a VM rely on you installing the guest tools, so never do that. What are guest tools in this context? -- Rejo Zenger E r...@zenger.nl | P +31(0)639642738 | W https://rejo.zenger.nl T @rejozenger | J r...@zenger.nl OpenPGP

Re: [tor-talk] Benefits of Running TBB in a VM?

2014-07-03 Thread Tempest
Bobby Brewster: What are the benefits of running TBB in a VM? AIUI, there are two advantages. 1.If malware infects the VM, then just the VM is compromised. If your Windows/Mac/Linux system is infected, then your entire system is affected (yes, I realise that it should be only the

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-03 Thread Anders Andersson
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote: On 07/02/2014 11:00 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: Unfortunately he doesn't seem to want to take this further, so the ruling will stand. It's his choice, but it could be a very bad deterrent to other potential exit node

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-03 Thread Geoff Down
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote: On 07/02/2014 11:00 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: Unfortunately he doesn't seem to want to take this further, so the ruling will stand. It's his choice, but it could be a very bad deterrent to other potential exit

Re: [tor-talk] XKeyscore-Quellcode: more english details requested

2014-07-03 Thread Elrippo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On which station can we watch the story on German TV today? On 03. Juli 2014 14:01:15 MESZ, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote: Hi, On 7/3/14, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: request for more (english speaking) details on QUELLCODE part

Re: [tor-talk] XKeyscore-Quellcode: more english details requested

2014-07-03 Thread Jens Kubieziel
* Elrippo schrieb am 2014-07-03 um 16:22 Uhr: On which station can we watch the story on German TV today? Will be broadcasted on ARD at 21:45 (9:45 pm, 20:45 UTC). URL:http://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/archiv/2014/Quellcode-entschluesselt-Beweis-fuer-NSA-Spionage-in-Deutschland,nsa224.html --

Re: [tor-talk] OTFC IRC issues - new Tor friendly IRC network?

2014-07-03 Thread Patrick Schleizer
BlueStar88: On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:15:47 + Patrick Schleizer adrela...@riseup.net wrote: BlueStar88: 37lnq2veifl4kar7.onion:6697 is up and running fine. Who runs that server? Inoffical one? I was more looking for a scalable, robust solution rather than individual quick fix.

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-03 Thread s7r
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/3/2014 4:16 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote: On 07/02/2014 11:00 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: Unfortunately he doesn't seem to want to take this further, so the ruling will

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: according to leaked XKeyScore source NSA marks all Tor users as extremists, puts them on a surveillance list

2014-07-03 Thread coderman
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:13 AM, -John j...@johnlgrubbs.net wrote: I thought JY at cryptome.org was already doing what you suggest. i presume you mean as below: (more a translation than additional QUELLCODE info though ;) --- http://cryptome.org/2014/07/nsa-tor-de.htm Donate for the

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
(Thread start: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-July/033573.html ) On 7/3/14, Anders Andersson pipat...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote: On 07/02/2014 11:00 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: Unfortunately he doesn't seem

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: according to leaked XKeyScore source NSA marks all Tor users as extremists, puts them on a surveillance list

2014-07-03 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 7/3/14, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:36 AM, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: ... i presume you mean as below: (more a translation than additional QUELLCODE info though ;) Here is some of the source code:

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: according to leaked XKeyScore source NSA marks all Tor users as extremists, puts them on a surveillance list

2014-07-03 Thread coderman
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:36 AM, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: ... i presume you mean as below: (more a translation than additional QUELLCODE info though ;) detailed technical info via J. Appelbaum, A. Gibson, J. Goetz, V. Kabisch, L. Kampf, L. Ryge ---

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: according to leaked XKeyScore source NSA marks all Tor users as extremists, puts them on a surveillance list

2014-07-03 Thread coderman
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote: ... Here is some of the source code:... merci beaucoup :) -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: according to leaked XKeyScore source NSA marks all Tor users as extremists, puts them on a surveillance list

2014-07-03 Thread mick
On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 16:11:39 + Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net allegedly wrote: On 7/3/14, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:36 AM, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: ... i presume you mean as below: (more a translation than additional QUELLCODE info

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/3/2014 10:34 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Agreed, great news. In hindsight, it is clear that we as a community have an interest to build a resource of amicus curiae briefs - friend of the court briefs. So PLEASE make moves in the direction of contributing and collecting documents which may

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: according to leaked XKeyScore source NSA marks all Tor users as extremists, puts them on a surveillance list

2014-07-03 Thread Watson Ladd
On Jul 3, 2014 9:57 AM, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote: On 7/3/14, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:36 AM, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: ... i presume you mean as below: (more a translation than additional QUELLCODE info though ;) Here is

Re: [tor-talk] according to leaked XKeyScore source NSA marks all Tor users as extremists, puts them on a surveillance list

2014-07-03 Thread Seth David Schoen
Jacob Appelbaum writes: On 7/3/14, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/XKeyscore-Quellcode-Tor-Nutzer-werden-von-der-NSA-als-Extremisten-markiert-und-ueberwacht-2248328.html /kraut Here is our larger story (in English) which includes excerpts of

[tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000

2014-07-03 Thread grarpamp
You Don't Have to be the NSA to Break Tor: Deanonymizing Users on a Budget Alexander Volynkin / Michael McCord [...] Looking for the IP address of a Tor user? Not a problem. Trying to uncover the location of a Hidden Service? Done. We know because we tested it, in the wild... In this talk, we

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: according to leaked XKeyScore source NSA marks all Tor users as extremists, puts them on a surveillance list

2014-07-03 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 03/07/14 16:11 + - Jacob Appelbaum: Here is some of the source code: http://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/xkeyscorerules100.txt Can you tell us something about the source of this code? The articles of the ARD do not mention any source at all, while other outlets mentioned Snowden whenever

Re: [tor-talk] Benefits of Running TBB in a VM?

2014-07-03 Thread Bobby Brewster
On Thu, 7/3/14, Tempest temp...@bitmessage.ch wrote: Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Benefits of Running TBB in a VM? To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Date: Thursday, July 3, 2014, 5:48 AM Bobby Brewster: What are the benefits of running TBB in a

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-03 Thread C B
I agree that collecting stories about why/how I use Tor is useful, but I disagree that any special education or warning should be needed before setting up an exit node. Setting up an exit node is simply providing another IP that can be used for traffic and nothing else. It is useful to provide

Re: [tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000

2014-07-03 Thread Matthew Kaufman
https://www.blackhat.com/us-14/briefings.html#you-dont-have-to-be-the-nsa-to-break-tor-deanonymizing-users-on-a-budget On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: You Don't Have to be the NSA to Break Tor: Deanonymizing Users on a Budget Alexander Volynkin / Michael

Re: [tor-talk] High-latency hidden services (was: Re: Secure Hidden Service

2014-07-03 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/02/2014 04:18 PM, Helder Ribeiro wrote: Apps like Pocket (http://getpocket.com/) work as a read it later queue, downloading things for offline reading. While you're reading an offline article, you can also follow links and click to add

[tor-talk] Funny, but not amusing browsing

2014-07-03 Thread Spam 06
I admit I have installed more extensions to TBB. Only FSF approved licenses, mind you ;-) I have no flash, no java, only the add-ons. When I browse Wikipedia some of the images are messed up. Meaning there is another image, most of the time a detail from a larger picture in place. You can see the

Re: [tor-talk] Funny, but not amusing browsing

2014-07-03 Thread Michael O Holstein
I got worried yesterday when instead of the Wikipedia logo on the top-left corner there was the picture of a nazi (army) guy with a Is this reproducible? To successfully (without error) insert into an HTTPS connection you must be trusted by the client .. would need list of CAcerts from

Re: [tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000

2014-07-03 Thread C B
https://www.blackhat.com/us-14/briefings.html#you-dont-have-to-be-the-nsa-to-break-tor-deanonymizing-users-on-a-budget     -- Christopher Booth From: grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Cc: cypherpu...@cpunks.org Sent: Thursday, July

Re: [tor-talk] according to leaked XKeyScore source NSA marks all Tor users as extremists, puts them on a surveillance list

2014-07-03 Thread coderman
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Seth David Schoen sch...@eff.org wrote: ... Does anyone have theories about this part right at the bottom? .. /** * Placeholder fingerprint for Tor hidden service addresses. * Real fingerpritns will be fired by the plugins *

Re: [tor-talk] Funny, but not amusing browsing

2014-07-03 Thread Seth David Schoen
Spam 06 writes: I admit I have installed more extensions to TBB. Only FSF approved licenses, mind you ;-) I have no flash, no java, only the add-ons. When I browse Wikipedia some of the images are messed up. Meaning there is another image, most of the time a detail from a larger picture in

Re: [tor-talk] Funny, but not amusing browsing

2014-07-03 Thread Spam 06
Michael O Holstein: I got worried yesterday when instead of the Wikipedia logo on the top-left corner there was the picture of a nazi (army) guy with a Is this reproducible? In this instance of TBB, yes. But I haven't tried on a second computer. To successfully (without error) insert into

Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)

2014-07-03 Thread ideas buenas
I'm not referring to this.I'm talking of a lot of URI that appears when I try to link to any site. Every one of those Remote Address start with a couple o letters followed by numbers like this: server-54-230-83-145.mia50.r.cloudfront.net . On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Seth David Schoen

Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)

2014-07-03 Thread ideas buenas
Another example is this s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.comOR edge-star-shv-08-gru1.facebook.com OR ec2-54-225-215-244.compute-1.amazonaws.com everyone resolving to markmonitor.com On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:19 PM, ideas buenas ideasbue...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not referring to this.I'm

Re: [tor-talk] Funny, but not amusing browsing

2014-07-03 Thread Spam 06
Seth David Schoen: Can you right-click on the image and Inspect Element? If so, does it reference style=background-image: url(//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Wiki.png); http://s4.postimg.org/u8lb1dv7x/Screenshot_from_2014_07_03_23_15_59_1.png The source does not point to other

Re: [tor-talk] Funny, but not amusing browsing

2014-07-03 Thread Spam 06
The addon list is: * Adblock Plus 2.6.3 * Adblock Plus Pop-up Addon 0.9.2 * DownThemAll! 2.0.17 * DownThemAll! AntiContainer 1.3 * Flash and Video Download 1.58 * GrabMyBooks 1.8 * HTTPS-Everywhere 3.5.3 * Internote 3.0.2 * Mozilla Archive Format 3.0.2 * NoScript 2.6.8.31 * Self-Destructing

Re: [tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000

2014-07-03 Thread krishna e bera
On 14-07-03 02:05 PM, grarpamp wrote: You Don't Have to be the NSA to Break Tor: Deanonymizing Users on a Budget Alexander Volynkin / Michael McCord if they have followed a responsible disclosure process, tor developers should already be working on remedies... -- tor-talk mailing list -

Re: [tor-talk] High-latency hidden services (was: Re: Secure Hidden Service

2014-07-03 Thread Seth David Schoen
The Doctor writes: On 07/02/2014 04:18 PM, Helder Ribeiro wrote: Apps like Pocket (http://getpocket.com/) work as a read it later queue, downloading things for offline reading. While you're reading an offline article, you can also follow links and click to add them to your queue.

Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)

2014-07-03 Thread ideas buenas
Another inidentified URI in TBB: rev-213.189.48.245.atman.pl . Check this,please. Nor in Whois On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:27 PM, ideas buenas ideasbue...@gmail.com wrote: Another example is this s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.comOR edge-star-shv-08-gru1.facebook.com OR

Re: [tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000

2014-07-03 Thread Adrian Crenshaw
Best guess, many client side and web app attacks Tor can't do much about. (My talk at Defcon will cover a bunch of folks that got Deanonymized, but in every case it was not Tor that was really broke) Adrian On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM, krishna e bera k...@cyblings.on.ca wrote: On 14-07-03

Re: [tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000

2014-07-03 Thread Seth David Schoen
Adrian Crenshaw writes: Best guess, many client side and web app attacks Tor can't do much about. (My talk at Defcon will cover a bunch of folks that got Deanonymized, but in every case it was not Tor that was really broke) The description on the Black Hat site refers a handful of powerful

[tor-talk] use gpg or fork in tor

2014-07-03 Thread raiogam mestri
i'm a devif tor not use it is nsa can spy torif not 2 key 1 for encript and 1 for decript not workanyone and someone have encript key anyone and someone encript and send to user via torthe user have decript keyand receive the code encript via torand decrypt they i search open source and look

Re: [tor-talk] High-latency hidden services

2014-07-03 Thread Mirimir
On 07/03/2014 04:16 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote: The Doctor writes: On 07/02/2014 04:18 PM, Helder Ribeiro wrote: Apps like Pocket (http://getpocket.com/) work as a read it later queue, downloading things for offline reading. While you're reading an offline article, you can also follow

Re: [tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000

2014-07-03 Thread AntiTree
Can anyone from the Tor Project jump in to say whether these guys have reached out or not? We should be concerned about another CCC-style 0-day presentation where they find a legitimate vulnerability that could have been patched prior, but are using it as a PR stunt to boost book sales as opposed

Re: [tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000

2014-07-03 Thread Yuri
On 07/03/2014 16:17, Adrian Crenshaw wrote: Best guess, many client side and web app attacks Tor can't do much about. (My talk at Defcon will cover a bunch of folks that got Deanonymized, but in every case it was not Tor that was really broke) This actually depends on what to mean by Tor. If

Re: [tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000

2014-07-03 Thread C B
It also has to be a hollow claim. To actually deanonymize someone would mean making a list of every website that was visited by that client. Not just identify one client that visited one website. And how many clients were you planning on doing that with? It would take an NSA size budget not a