Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-08 Thread Julian Yon
On 08/11/11 04:25, katmagic wrote: > On 11/06/2011 03:05 PM, Julian Yon wrote: >> Personally I use DDG, partly because of privacy concerns and partly >> because I don't like the new-look Google. You can always do a Google >> search through DDG or Scroogle if you're feeling paranoid. > DuckDuckGo's

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-07 Thread katmagic
On 11/06/2011 03:05 PM, Julian Yon wrote: > Personally I use DDG, partly because of privacy concerns and partly > because I don't like the new-look Google. You can always do a Google > search through DDG or Scroogle if you're feeling paranoid. DuckDuckGo's !bang queries are just redirects. You'll b

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 07:52:27PM +, audd wrote: > I'm trying using yacy as a search distribuited engine, anyone knows > something about it? does it works? It would be good to have yacy running in spider mode on as many freedom boxes as possible. However, this is Java, so it's probably too

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/6/2011 2:05 PM, Julian Yon wrote: Personally I use DDG, partly because of privacy concerns and partly because I don't like the new-look Google. You can always do a Google search through DDG or Scroogle if you're feeling paranoid. On topic, I'd prefer DDG or Ixquick as the default search i

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-06 Thread audd
I'm trying using yacy as a search distribuited engine, anyone knows something about it? does it works? ixquick and duckduckgo are web search engine not tor net search engine... bye AdD On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:38:55 -0600, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 11/5/2011 12:47 PM, Christian Siefkes wrote: "Avoi

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-06 Thread Julian Yon
On 06/11/11 19:38, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > About all I can advise is, read Google's (lack of) privacy policy. > If you like it, use them. If you'd rather not have your search terms > recorded & also used for targeted advertising, then use another > search engine that doesn't use those practices. Goo

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/5/2011 12:47 PM, Christian Siefkes wrote: "Avoid Google" is not among that warnings, as far as I can see. You are correct - not from Tor Project anyway. They also don't say avoid robbing banks; don't stare at the sun, etc. About all I can advise is, read Google's (lack of) privacy polic

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-05 Thread Christian Siefkes
On 11/04/2011 06:01 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > On 11/4/2011 9:54 AM, Christian Siefkes wrote: >> How should using Google as search engine comprise your anonymity? Either >> you're anonymous, then you're anonymous on Google too. Or you aren't >> anonymous, then avoiding Google won't help you. > Christ

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-04 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Christian Siefkes wrote: > How should using Google as search engine comprise your anonymity? Either > you're anonymous, then you're anonymous on Google too. Or you aren't > anonymous, then avoiding Google won't help you. Anonymity is not an either or thing. If it

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/4/2011 9:54 AM, Christian Siefkes wrote: On 11/04/2011 03:43 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: A lot of effort is put into helping Tor / TBB users avoid compromising anonymity by using Google searches. Yet, the Google search engine is left in Aurora. It's a pretty simple question - why? How should

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-04 Thread Christian Siefkes
On 11/04/2011 03:43 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > A lot of effort is put into helping Tor / TBB users avoid compromising > anonymity by using Google searches. Yet, the Google search engine is left > in Aurora. It's a pretty simple question - why? How should using Google as search engine comprise your

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/3/2011 3:53 AM, Advrk Aplmrkt wrote: On 2 November 2011 20:17, Julian Yon wrote: As the GPL is one of the license options, there is no way that any contract or agreement between Google and Mozilla could possibly be binding on a third party. Mozilla do impose restrictions on use of their

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-03 Thread Advrk Aplmrkt
On 2 November 2011 20:17, Julian Yon wrote: > On 02/11/11 23:32, Joe Btfsplk wrote: >> I have no concrete knowledge if it would violate any Mozilla agreements. > > As the GPL is one of the license options, there is no way that any > contract or agreement between Google and Mozilla could possibly b

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/2/2011 4:40 PM, Advrk Aplmkt wrote: > Joe Btfsplk 於 2011/11/2 12:06 寫道: >> On 11/1/2011 8:23 PM, Advrk Aplmkt wrote: >>> Thanks Joe for the info. >>> Yes, I *do* know how to remove search engines, including the method you >>> described. >>> However, I was suggesting that Google (and probabl

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-02 Thread Julian Yon
On 02/11/11 23:32, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > I have no concrete knowledge if it would violate any Mozilla agreements. As the GPL is one of the license options, there is no way that any contract or agreement between Google and Mozilla could possibly be binding on a third party. Mozilla do impose restric

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-02 Thread Advrk Aplmkt
Joe Btfsplk 於 2011/11/2 12:06 寫道: > On 11/1/2011 8:23 PM, Advrk Aplmkt wrote: >> Thanks Joe for the info. >> Yes, I *do* know how to remove search engines, including the method you >> described. >> However, I was suggesting that Google (and probably some of the other >> defaults) be not in the T

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/1/2011 8:23 PM, Advrk Aplmkt wrote: > Thanks Joe for the info. > Yes, I *do* know how to remove search engines, including the method you > described. > However, I was suggesting that Google (and probably some of the other > defaults) be not in the TBB to begin with, or at least not the defa

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/1/2011 5:24 PM, Tim Wilde wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/1/2011 4:11 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: No, I didn't. I told it * TO * redirect (which it did), I just didn't click the "make it permanent" box. By my thinking, the only way that notice should NOT have appea

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-01 Thread Advrk Aplmkt
Thanks Joe for the info. Yes, I *do* know how to remove search engines, including the method you described. However, I was suggesting that Google (and probably some of the other defaults) be not in the TBB to begin with, or at least not the default. I believe this would make TBB more consistent i

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-01 Thread Tim Wilde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/1/2011 4:11 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > No, I didn't. I told it * TO * redirect (which it did), I just > didn't click the "make it permanent" box. By my thinking, the only > way that notice should NOT have appeared again, during same > session, is

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/1/2011 10:49 AM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:13:44 Joe Btfsplk wrote: *** BUT, on a 2nd SEARCH, w/ Google still selected as search engine, TBB does NOT show the screen, asking if you'd like to redirect to another search engine. You told torbutton you didn't want

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-01 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:13:44 Joe Btfsplk wrote: > *** BUT, on a 2nd SEARCH, w/ Google still selected as search engine, TBB > does NOT show the screen, asking if you'd like to redirect to another > search engine. SEEMS like a BUG. I tried various ways to get TBB to > present the "do you

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/30/2011 8:05 PM, Advrk Aplmrkt wrote: Hello, It occurred to me that the recent version of the Tor Browser Bundle uses Google as its default search engine. However, as we all know very well, Google actively tracks its users. Despite the fact the the whole point of Tor, and indeed the functio

[tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-10-30 Thread Advrk Aplmrkt
Hello, It occurred to me that the recent version of the Tor Browser Bundle uses Google as its default search engine. However, as we all know very well, Google actively tracks its users. Despite the fact the the whole point of Tor, and indeed the functionality the Tor Browser provides, improves anon