Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-26 Thread Karsten N.
On 01/25/2012 10:29 PM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: Can any of you clarify this please? JonDonym's Wikipedia page [1] claims that no backdoor was ever installed in running MIX routers. What is a backdoor: A backdoor offers unrestricted access to the law enforcement agencies and intelleigence

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-26 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:05, Karsten N. k...@awxcnx.de wrote: Such a backdoor was built into the Greek Vodafone network for law enforcement wiretapping capabilities and was requested by FBI director Robert Mueller from US companies. If Mueller’s wish were granted, the FBI would gain

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-26 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 03:07, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote: Please see other replies, but the backdoor in question is: https://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/law_enforcement.html I read the replies and that page — guessed that “backdoor” is meant metaphorically, but thought that

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-26 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:35:20AM +0200, Maxim Kammerer wrote: I see, so is that an optional feature that can be turned on by a MIX router operator once served by a surveillance order? It seems to me that it's an advantage over Tor, where relay operators can be served with an order and some

[tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-25 Thread Nathan Freitas
Anyone have an opinion of JonDonym? Guardian Contact: Lukas Braune lukas.bra...@mailbox.tu-dresden.de wrote: From: Lukas Braune lukas.bra...@mailbox.tu-dresden.de Subject: ANONdroid Message Body: Hello, I am one of the developers of ANONdroid, the JonDonym client for Android devices:

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-25 Thread Karsten N.
On 01/25/2012 01:33 PM, Nathan Freitas wrote: Anyone have an opinion of JonDonym? JonDonym is a strong anonymsation service like Tor. It is the sucessor of the project AN.ON of the German universities TU Dresden and TU Regensburg. It uses fixed routes with mix cascades of 2 mix servers (free

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-25 Thread Karsten N.
On 01/25/2012 01:33 PM, Nathan Freitas wrote: Anyone have an opinion of JonDonym? I forgot to add a notice about my background, sorry. I am working for JonDos GmbH, the software company behind JonDonym. Please keep in mind: I did not wrote an independent opinion. ;-) Best regards Karsten N.

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-25 Thread Robert Ransom
On 2012-01-25, Nathan Freitas nat...@freitas.net wrote: Anyone have an opinion of JonDonym? JonDonym (or whatever they called themselves at the time) backdoored its service in order to deanonymize a user. Their centralized design makes it likely that their service will be backdoored again.

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-25 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Nathan Freitas (nat...@freitas.net): No problem and glad to see overlap. I just wanted a publicly stated opinion as I have zero experience with it, and reputation and trust are all that matter! I also work with Georg Koppen of JonDos on Tor Browser. He's given a lot of feedback to

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-25 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 21:34, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote: JonDos has something of a bad reputation in the Tor community because of the backdoor Karsten and Robert mentioned. I think that against adversaries like organized crime and oppressive governments, this property can be a

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: ANONdroid

2012-01-25 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Maxim Kammerer (m...@dee.su): On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 21:34, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote: JonDos has something of a bad reputation in the Tor community because of the backdoor Karsten and Robert mentioned. I think that against adversaries like organized crime and