On 4/7/2011 1:54 PM, grarpamp wrote:
The shortest answer is that strong pseudonyms are useful, even (or
especially) in a well connected social environment. Many people want
to have those links. Many want use some of the services google offers:
https://www.google.com/intl/en/options/
Many want
I used version 8.
sdk tools rev 10
sdk platform-tools rev 3
plat 3.0 api 11 rev 1 + google api 11 rev 1
plat 2.3.3 api 10 rev 1 + google api 10 rev 1
plat 2.2 api 8 rev 1 + google api 8 rev 2
These all work. I wanted to install the platform-tools, platforms
and add-ons individually via
On 05.04.2011 08:21, Aaron wrote:
If you must have GMail, I've noticed that accounts created on android
devices are not subject to these checks. And yes, even when using Tor
via Orbot.
You don't have an android phone? The following works too:
1. Install the android sdk/emulator and create
On 4/6/2011 7:27 PM, grarpamp wrote:
Don't understand clinging to Gmail for dear life.
They just happen to have some really good services and tie-ins that
all rely on having a gmail/google account. I may just cough up $20
for a disposable phone to get that.
If someday the services really
If I understand some Tor users' reasoning, they want to use Tor w/ email
for various privacy reasons AND they want to use really good services
tie-ins at the same time? ... My questions here are sincere - trying to learn
The shortest answer is that strong pseudonyms are useful, even (or
Those are very good points.
My usage is just to expand the Tor community and get some modicum of
privacy. The more regular users that use Tor, the more acceptable
it's use will be perceived. As, if only the pedophiles and
criminals use it, then it draws more attention and immediately labels
On 06.04.2011 07:35, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote:
On 05.04.2011 08:21, Aaron wrote:
If you must have GMail, I've noticed that accounts created on android
devices are not subject to these checks. And yes, even when using Tor
via Orbot.
You don't have an android phone? The following works too:
On 06.04.2011 10:12, grarpamp wrote:
It would be nice to know how exactly the AVD is transmitted. I guess you
could then easily fake the value without having to install the SDK.
AVD (android virtual device)... sounds like a virtualbox instance.
I don't believer it's 'transmitted' anywhere.
On 06.04.2011 08:40, Moritz Bartl wrote:
On 06.04.2011 10:12, grarpamp wrote:
It would be nice to know how exactly the AVD is transmitted. I guess you
could then easily fake the value without having to install the SDK.
AVD (android virtual device)... sounds like a virtualbox instance.
I don't
Could you elaborate a bit on this? After this discussion I went ahead and
tried to create another anonymous gmail account and ran into the requires SMS
hitch as discussed (and there is no option that I can see to bypass this via
other means as others have described)
I have no idea what
Just a quick note...a nice, safe, easily anonymized email account can be had at
safe-mail.net. No hoops to jump through, tor friendly.
On Tuesday, April 05, 2011 01:52:31 am grarpamp wrote:
Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to
use a GMail account over
On 4/5/2011 11:10 PM, grarpamp wrote:
What if you don't have a phone # to give them (or don't want to) - they
just don't let you create an acct?
In my tests to date (limited by free time), yes, that's what I said.
FYI - I tried GMX w/ Tor couple days ago - worked just fine.
Yes, free
On 06.04.2011 13:28, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
Could you elaborate a bit on this? After this discussion I went ahead and
tried to create another anonymous gmail account and ran into the requires
SMS hitch as discussed (and there is no option that I can see to bypass this
via other means as
On 06.04.2011 13:37, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
Just a quick note...a nice, safe, easily anonymized email account can be had
at safe-mail.net. No hoops to jump through, tor friendly.
I know and sometimes use it for some purposes. But they give their
users only 3 Mb and they let use their
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Orionjur Tor-admin
tor-ad...@orionjurinform.com wrote:
On 06.04.2011 08:40, Moritz Bartl wrote:
On 06.04.2011 10:12, grarpamp wrote:
It would be nice to know how exactly the AVD is transmitted. I guess you
could then easily fake the value without having to
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:38 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote:
If you must have GMail, I've noticed that accounts created on android
devices are not subject to these checks. And yes, even when using Tor
via Orbot.
Since using your android is, afaik, the same as giving them your
phone
I have the SDK installed and have run an emulator...not sure what to do with it
though. I cannot transmit messages (or anything) and cannot receive anything
(to what number would it go to in any case?).
praedor
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 01:00:42 pm Orionjur Tor-admin wrote:
On 06.04.2011
The workaround is for creating new accounts; not for receiving SMS
verification of existing accounts (unfortunately).
If you need a throwaway number for SMS there are a number of VOIP
services that might be useful and could probably be purchased using a
prepay card if you want to do it
One thing you could test is adding your existing google account (one
pending SMS verification) to the android emulator and see if that has
any effect. It's pretty much the same process I outlined before,
except hit the 'add existing' option rather than 'create new'
--Aaron
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at
On 06.04.2011 22:54, Aaron wrote:
If you need a throwaway number for SMS there are a number of VOIP
services that might be useful and could probably be purchased using a
prepay card if you want to do it anonymously.
OT: I have recently registered a VOIP number and mistakenly entered the
wrong
I do think it's ridiculous to need a phone to get a webmail
account.
I just don't like their apparent stance requiring SMS/voice auth.
What I don't understand is hating on Google but still wanting to
use their webmail service.
As mentioned earlier, it's a perception thing. And of course all
I usually require https (creation and management), imaps (retrieval),
smtps/submission (sending), no automatic addition of addresses
to 'contact' lists when sent via web or smtp, and an outright account
deletion function.
I meant to include with this: no inclusion of source IP/FQDN in the
On Apr 6, 2011 4:42 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote:
I do think it's ridiculous to need a phone to get a webmail
account.
I just don't like their apparent stance requiring SMS/voice auth.
What I don't understand is hating on Google but still wanting to
use their webmail service.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Aaron aag...@extc.org wrote:
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:38 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote:
If you must have GMail, I've noticed that accounts created on android
devices are not subject to these checks. And yes, even when using Tor
via Orbot.
Since using
If you must have GMail, I've noticed that accounts created on android
devices are not subject to these checks. And yes, even when using Tor
via Orbot.
You don't have an android phone? The following works too:
1. Install the android sdk/emulator and create an avd. I tested with
API 8 (android
On 4/5/2011 12:52 AM, grarpamp wrote:
First I've heard that they require SMS to *USE* gmail.
However, SMS has been required for quite some time now
to *CREATE* a new gmail account. There was a thread a
few months back regarding creation. And to date, I've not
been able to create a new gmail
in.
I use tor button on mozilla, by the way. You must enable cookies and 3rd party
cookies to be able to log in.
--- On Tue, 4/5/11, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote:
From: Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?
To: tor
Yes, thus my question about where the StrictExitNodes commands
would be input / stored (maybe for specific country) ?
Not sure if this was answered but you just put the entries in your torrc file.
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On 4/5/2011 4:54 PM, Praedor Tempus wrote:
The problem with gmail appears to be tied to certain countries. I created a completely
anonymous gmail account late last year (no SMS crap) via tor. I have found that most of
the time I am able to connect to my account but there are times (wrong
On 4/5/2011 3:53 PM, Matthew wrote:
Yes, thus my question about where the StrictExitNodes commands
would be input / stored (maybe for specific country) ?
Not sure if this was answered but you just put the entries in your
torrc file.
No, it wasn't answered - that I saw. Thanks. I know
Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to
use a GMail account over Tor.
1st I've heard they REQUIRE a phone # to use Gmail over Tor. Anyone
else aware this is the only way?
First I've heard that they require SMS to *USE* gmail.
However, SMS has been required
Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com):
On 4/2/2011 2:33 PM, katmagic wrote:
Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to
use a GMail account over Tor. This is unrelated to Torbutton's cookie
handling
(which was broken but has since been fixed). Personally,
On 4/3/2011 1:06 AM, Mike Perry wrote:
Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com):
On 4/2/2011 2:33 PM, katmagic wrote:
Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to
use a GMail account over Tor. This is unrelated to Torbutton's cookie
handling
(which was broken
On 02/04/11 14:04, James Brown wrote:
I run Icedove 3.5.16 on Debian Squeeze (under a transparently-torified
linux user), Tor v0.2.1.30, TB 1.2.5.
When I try to log into my gmail accounts I have the next message:
We've detected a problem with your cookie settings.
Enable cookies
Make sure
On 02.04.2011 17:11, Matthew wrote:
I am wondering if you are using Torbutton and, if so, whether you are
using 1.3.2pre-alpha3?
With extensions.torbutton.xfer_google_cookies as true and with the xpi
downloaded (see below) I no longer received the error you have quoted.
On 4/2/2011 2:33 PM, katmagic wrote:
Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to
use a GMail account over Tor. This is unrelated to Torbutton's cookie handling
(which was broken but has since been fixed). Personally, I got a friend on IRC
to let me use his phone for
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