[tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread Ted Smith
This thread is a good example of basic human rights for women being neutrally debated on tor-talk, by men. While this is a subject that most if not all men can discuss neutrally, it's a much more personal topic for most women, and seeing this discussed (or rather: seeing the sexual assault of

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread z9wahqvh
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Ted Smith te...@riseup.net wrote: Tor as a technology and community helps women and humans far more than it hurts them, This is to the side of your main point (with which I am largely in agreement), and I mean this in the most serious and respectful way

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread Damian Johnson
This is to the side of your main point (with which I am largely in agreement), and I mean this in the most serious and respectful way possible: can you point to statistics, metrics, data that support this point? I suspect the opposite is true, but I very much want to know the real facts, in

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread Ted Smith
On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 10:00 -0700, Damian Johnson wrote: This is to the side of your main point (with which I am largely in agreement), and I mean this in the most serious and respectful way possible: can you point to statistics, metrics, data that support this point? I suspect the

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Mirimir
On 09/15/2014 10:29 AM, Ted Smith wrote: This thread is a good example of basic human rights for women being neutrally debated on tor-talk, by men. That's a mischaracterization. Only one poster has defended the site. If I had the skills and resources, I'd take it down. Maybe I'll take a shot,

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Griffin Boyce
As some of the list knows, my introduction to Tor was while working on a peer counseling project that primarily served women. Even now, the *vast* majority of people that I teach about online privacy and security are women in very high-risk situations -- frequently involving stalking, domestic

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Patrick
Most people on tor-talk don't necessarily care to hear about these topics (or do they?) but we're all out there fighting the good fight. Our work just isn't salacious enough to merit a poorly-written gossip column. While I completely understand Tor people's reservations about the press you've

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 09/16/2014 01:35 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Those who matter do. +1 -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/ -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 09/15/2014 07:35 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Those who matter do. A well written article or two on such things would undoubtedly be useful on occasion to point to, and in this (type of) thread in particular, it seems to me that referring to such an article early on may be about the most

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread Andrew Lewman
I just read through this massive thread. I agree with killing the thread. The topic is important, but now no longer constructive for tor-talk. Please no more replies to the thread. Thanks. -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475 https://www.torproject.org/ +1-781-948-1982 -- tor-talk mailing list -