On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 13:06:31 +, Eugen Leitl wrote:
...
tor uses a circut guard - middle - exit and unless the NSA can get access
to the guard's isp, the middle's isp, and the exit's isp which more than
The Internet topology is mostly a tree. Tapping the fiber at a few chokepoints
(e.g.
The NSA cannot always know who is behind Tor. This is due to the fast that
tor uses a circut guard - middle - exit and unless the NSA can get access
to the guard's isp, the middle's isp, and the exit's isp which more than
one of them may be in a country that hates the US they can't see what your
tor uses a circut guard - middle - exit and unless the NSA can get access
to the guard's isp, the middle's isp, and the exit's isp which more than
one of them may be in a country that hates the US they can't see what your
doing and prove it was you. Also even if you had a .pcap of each
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:43:55 -0400
Nathan Suchy theusernameiwantista...@gmail.com wrote:
The NSA cannot always know who is behind Tor. This is due to the fast
that tor uses a circut guard - middle - exit and unless the NSA can
get access to the guard's isp, the middle's isp, and the exit's isp
At 09:26 PM 7/18/2013 -0400, you wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:31:21PM -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote:
They know the real IP of every Tor user every time they use Tor?
Probably not.
Why not? Don't they monitor enough internet traffic to know what the
users are doing? Don't all
the security needs of users vary as well, so there's no single answer.
individuals don't have much of a chance against attackers that matter, that
is, governments.
A couple things we all might agree on are that
- observing users using tor is harder and costlier than observing those
same
On 18/07/2013 10:26 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:31:21PM -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote:
They know the real IP of every Tor user every time they use
Tor?
Probably not.
Why not? Don't they monitor enough internet traffic to know what
the users are doing? Don't all ISPs
On 19 July 2013 06:35, Ed Fletcher e...@fletcher.ca wrote:
On a related note, does having (what I assume is) a serious percentage of
the Tor relays in the Amazon cloud make it easier for the NSA to compromise
anonymity?
I don't think a 'series percentage' of relays are in EC2. I would
On Fr, Jul 19 2013, Roger Dingledine wrote:
Your first question was Can Tor defeat NSA, Tempora, PRISM?
and the answer to that is also no.
This should be the point where you realize that it's
complicated, and you need to learn more about the issues.
You might start here:
On 19/07/2013 9:23 AM, Tom Ritter wrote:
On 19 July 2013 06:35, Ed Fletcher e...@fletcher.ca wrote:
On a related note, does having (what I assume is) a serious percentage of
the Tor relays in the Amazon cloud make it easier for the NSA to compromise
anonymity?
I don't think a 'series
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 01:54:24AM +0200, F Fake wrote:
NSA, Tempora, PRISM And Company can always look who is behind Tor?
No.
They know the real IP of every Tor user every time they use Tor?
Probably not.
Your first question was Can Tor defeat NSA, Tempora, PRISM? and the
answer to that is
NSA, Tempora, PRISM And Company can always look who is behind Tor?
They know the real IP of every Tor user every time they use Tor?
What about all those people recently suggesting Tor to defeat those? A whole
website prism-break.org!
Shouldn't Torproject be more clear about it's limitations?
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:31:21PM -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote:
They know the real IP of every Tor user every time they use Tor?
Probably not.
Why not? Don't they monitor enough internet traffic to know what the
users are doing? Don't all ISPs either work for the NSA, or let the
At 08:19 PM 7/18/2013 -0400, you wrote:
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 01:54:24AM +0200, F Fake wrote:
NSA, Tempora, PRISM And Company can always look who is behind Tor?
No.
They know the real IP of every Tor user every time they use Tor?
Probably not.
Why not? Don't they monitor enough
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