On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 10:21:52AM +0100, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
Il 3/8/14, 8:39 PM, Paul Syverson ha scritto:
If you naively view Tor as Yet Another Pulbic Proxy, I agree. But this
is the same thinking that leads you to block all encrypted traffic you
aren't MITMing. There may be
Regarding 'Tor users are worse than Internet users' and what to do
as a Project/Users about blocking...
As an example, here are 105,000 hits from people who had to (according
to what appears to be Craigslist's current unwritten policy) do two
generally non-anonymous things:
- post from Clearnet
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 05:22:14AM -0500, grarp...@gmail.com wrote 3.6K bytes
in 0 lines about:
: Theory: Tor is being blocked mostly due to negative news media
: perception, and kneejerk catchall solutions taking the cheap and
: dumb route to systems and policy... not due to balanced acceptable
Il 2/7/14, 4:46 AM, grarpamp ha scritto:
What can we do, as a collective social entity, to put an end to
this madness?
From a Security-Wise point of view, if i was the IT Security Manager
of a company, i would definitively block Tor's access to my IT
infrastructure.
I would also block most of
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 08:06:11PM +0100, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
Il 2/7/14, 4:46 AM, grarpamp ha scritto:
What can we do, as a collective social entity, to put an end to
this madness?
From a Security-Wise point of view, if i was the IT Security Manager
of a company, i would
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The Internet will become more Tor-friendly only when Tor becomes (relatively)
mainstream.
Unless 1 out of (say) 14 internet users run Tor exit relays, Tor will be
blocked, gradually more and more aggressively.
Tor community should advertise it,
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 08:06:11PM +0100, li...@infosecurity.ch wrote 1.4K
bytes in 0 lines about:
: From a Security-Wise point of view, if i was the IT Security Manager
: of a company, i would definitively block Tor's access to my IT
: infrastructure.
As a former head of IT for a global
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:46:32PM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear
whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists,
or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far
as I'm concerned, we are all
grarpamp:
So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear
whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists,
or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far
as I'm concerned, we are all legitimate users of their services and
quite
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 12:33:08AM -0800, Al Jigong Billings wrote:
Or maybe people got tired of the minority of trolls and nazis that seem to
come through Tor to infest some sites. I know people who block Tor. It is
usually because a disproportionate amount of the abuse on their site comes
What can we do, as a collective social entity, to put an end to
this madness? It is not as if we, as Tor users, present any more
of a load upon their help/fraud/abuse desks than the wider open
internet as a whole, even when if perhaps adjusted for market share
of source IP's. So what can we
grarpamp:
So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear
whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists,
or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far
as I'm concerned, we are all legitimate users of their services and
quite
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:46:32PM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear
whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists,
or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far
as I'm concerned, we are all
On 2/7/2014 12:42 PM, Matthew Finkel wrote:
This is in re: Hulu (whis is presumably authenticated)... but really,
it applies to any service which we, the legitimate users of Tor,
are denied access to.
It has simply gone too far and we should be putting effort into
reversing this trend by
On 02/07/2014 01:55 PM, James Marshall wrote:
As others have pointed out, the fact (?) that Tor users are no more likely
to abuse may not matter as much as the *perception* that they are. However
unfairly, the perception of something often carries the day more than the
facts, and should be
Make that why blocking Tor exits is largely pointless.
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So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear
whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists,
or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far
as I'm concerned, we are all legitimate users of their services and
quite frankly, I've had
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