Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-17 Thread Agapetos
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Andrew Lewman and...@torproject.is wrote: The browser bundle is for tor clients, not relays. If you want to run a relay, on unixes, then install tor and configure it as a relay. We make an assumption that if you are running some sort of unix, you can handle

[tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Agapetos
Greetings, I'm a newbie in Onionland—I installed TBB on my Linux machine 2 days ago—and I have a question: My computer is old and I can't afford to run Firefox non-stop, so I close it when I don't use it and leave Vidalia running (I have a relay set up). When I try to run Firefox again from

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread proper
It is really weird, that Vidalia closes by default, when you close Firefox. There is no option to change that. It does not make sense, if people are expected, to enable contributing to the Tor network using Vidalia. No one can be expected to leave Firefox running 24/7. Do we have a ticket about

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:45:54 +0200 Agapetos agapetos.typho...@gmail.com wrote: My computer is old and I can't afford to run Firefox non-stop, so I close it when I don't use it and leave Vidalia running (I have a relay set up). When I try to run Firefox again from tor-browser_en-US/App/Firefox/

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread proper
The only safe way to start TBB is to run 'start-tor-browser'. Any other method will cause TBB to be in some odd state. Can you expand this please? Odd state in sense of no functionality or negative implications on anonymity? __ powered

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Agapetos
Hmm... I'm a bit sad to hear that because it's very inconvenient for some of us to run Firefox 24/7 just because we'd like to help the network with relaying. Perhaps in the future you will make it a bit more user-friendly in this regard. ___ tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Agapetos
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:41 PM, pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote: In meanwhile I did setup a workaround for your issue. Please test and leave feedback. https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/WebBrowsers#LeaveVidaliaRunningwhileclosingFirefoxTorBrowserUNTESTED OK, I just

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Zebro kojos
I'm sorry because I haven't read the entire conversation up until now, but if people are using Ubuntu, what is stopping them from doing sudo apt-get install tor; configuring relaying in torrc and using the Firefox/Aurora/whichever browser from TBB (would need to change the listen port,

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread proper
I'm sorry because I haven't read the entire conversation up until now, but if people are using Ubuntu, what is stopping them from doing sudo apt-get install tor; Will conflict with Tor Browser Bundle. (SocksPort on same port.) configuring relaying in torrc Vidalia was made for less

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Zebro kojos
Ok, understandable. then again, SocksPort is just one line.. I mean one could write a simple script and publish it for such users (which I might do in order to stop this drooling of mine); one finds the line, and changes the port number. Problem #1 solved? For relaying, it is a matter of

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Andrew Lewman and...@torproject.is wrote: For some reason on linux, when closing firefox, it doesn't kill vidalia. On osx and windows, closing firefox correctly closes vidalia. Just a correction: On OS X 10.6.8 Vidalia remains open when I quite the TBB FireFox.

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread AK
I think this should work: 1) Remove the lines: BrowserDirectory=. BrowserExecutable=firefox from Data/Vidalia/vidalia.conf 2) Add the line SocksPort 9050 to Data/Tor/torrc 3)./App/Firefox/firefox -P no-remote and create and run a new profile with Data/profile as the directory On Mon, Apr

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread proper
I don't think that's a clean and easy solution. Your tool laying around on some third party server and barely anyone being aware and using it. Possible solutions: - As a intermediate fix: Simply change the Windows behavior, not to close Vidalia/Tor when Firefox is terminated. (Like already on

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/16/2012 12:58 PM, AK wrote: I think this should work: 1) Remove the lines: BrowserDirectory=. BrowserExecutable=firefox from Data/Vidalia/vidalia.conf 2) Add the line SocksPort 9050 to Data/Tor/torrc 3)./App/Firefox/firefox -P no-remote and create and run a new profile with

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:43:23 +0200 Agapetos agapetos.typho...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm... I'm a bit sad to hear that because it's very inconvenient for some of us to run Firefox 24/7 just because we'd like to help the network with relaying. Perhaps in the future you will make it a bit more

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread proper
We make an assumption that if you are running some sort of unix, you can handle your package management system, or compile from source, and edit the torrc file. No good assumption. Using unix doesn't make you a geek. Ubuntu is one of the most widespread AND newbie friendly distribution.