On 2014-10-01 09:57, Derric Atzrott wrote:
About once a year the topic of Tor comes up on Wikimedia's technical mailing
list. I recently raised the topic again. For those who aren't aware of the
situation, currently Wikimedia blocks all edits from Tor users. We are trying
to find a way that
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With Tor soft-blocked, this problem goes away. What am I missing?
I'm not sure if you are saying Tor is soft-blocked, so what is the
problem? or If we soft-blocked Tor there would be no problem. So
I'm going to attempt to address both.
==Tor is
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Thanks for joining the list and starting the conversation. Are there
data sets or statistics which quantify tor usage at wikimedia? It might
help to frame the discussion if we know the scale of the tor usage or
the problem we're trying to
On 10/02/2014 06:52 AM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
SNIP
I liked the GPG idea, and brought it back to Wikitech-l. I'll let
you guys know if anyone there finds a way to completely break it.
There's another possibility that's probably easier to implement and
test, but isn't so broadly useful as a
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I liked the GPG idea, and brought it back to Wikitech-l. I'll let
you guys know if anyone there finds a way to completely break it.
There's another possibility that's probably easier to implement and
test, but isn't so broadly useful as a
On 10/02/2014 06:52 AM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
SNIP
I liked the GPG idea, and brought it back to Wikitech-l. I'll let
you guys know if anyone there finds a way to completely break it.
I've asked about this on gnupg-users, and have been disabused of the
notion. I get that it's too hard to
On 10/02/2014 01:15 PM, Mirimir wrote:
On 10/02/2014 06:52 AM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
SNIP
I liked the GPG idea, and brought it back to Wikitech-l. I'll let
you guys know if anyone there finds a way to completely break it.
I've asked about this on gnupg-users, and have been disabused of
On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 01:15:32PM -0600, Mirimir wrote:
What's needed, I think, is challenge-based (as opposed to
reputation-based) proof-of-work that's very difficult to cheat. That
sounds like Bitcoin, doesn't it?
Yes, but a bit more like Hashcash given the usecase:
http://www.hashcash.org/
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Good day all,
About once a year the topic of Tor comes up on Wikimedia's technical mailing
list. I recently raised the topic again. For those who aren't aware of the
situation, currently Wikimedia blocks all edits from Tor users. We are trying
to
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com
wrote:
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I was curious if any of you here might have any ideas? How can we verify
that
a person is who they say they are, and block them if they are abusive in
such
a
On 10/01/2014 12:10 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
SNIP
Even imposing a nontrivial cost for creating accounts (say 10 BTC) would
not help. Determined adversaries would pay it. And of course, that would
exclude numerous innocents who wouldn't or couldn't pay.
Yeah, I was just listing off some
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Is there any mechanism available by which, e.g., known trusted editors
could request Tor access for specific login credentials/accounts, and Tor
only allowed for those accounts? This would also help to address Derric's
interest in allowing users
hi people
i am unfamiliar with this stuff. how many people can see/ read this here?
Greg Curcio
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Mirimir miri...@riseup.net wrote:
On 10/01/2014 12:10 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
SNIP
Even imposing a nontrivial cost for creating accounts (say 10 BTC) would
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com
wrote:
There is a mechanism for this. It is called an IP Block Exemption (IPBE),
sadly it is very hard to get because people fear its abuse so much. I have
actually only just got it after I brought up the topic of
hi people
i am unfamiliar with this stuff. how many people can see/ read this here?
The logs for this mailing list are publicly available.
Don't say anything you don't want the world to know.
Thank you,
Derric Atzrott
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this is extremely interesting--thank you! but would this work for Tor,
since presumably the IPs that are blocked are those of the exit relays?
I am proposing keeping the IPs blocked but opening them up for certain
logged-in accounts--I don't
On 2014-10-01 13:57, Derric Atzrott wrote:
Good day all,
Hi,
Thanks for bringing this up once more! The topic seems to recur even
more frequently than once a year around here.
Two recent and relevant discussions:
Your colleague Lane Rasberry started a similar thread earlier this year
and
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com
wrote:
Did that explain it any better?
it did. very clear now. sorry for not grokking it better first time
around.
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On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 15:50 -0400, Derric Atzrott wrote:
this is extremely interesting--thank you! but would this work for Tor,
since presumably the IPs that are blocked are those of the exit relays?
I am proposing keeping the IPs blocked but opening them up for certain
logged-in
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it did. very clear now. sorry for not grokking it better first time
around.
No worries. Such things happen; I could have been more clear.
Thanks for bringing this up once more! The topic seems to recur even
more frequently than once a year
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