Re: [tor-talk] panopticlick data

2013-10-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/2/2013 12:08 AM, Andreas Krey wrote: On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:43:10 +, Joe Btfsplk wrote: ... I believe in same TBB version (maybe the same in many versions) they spoof the useragent & time zone, but wouldn't differences in screen sizes & color bit ALONE, among a few users on one entry

Re: [tor-talk] panopticlick data

2013-10-01 Thread Andreas Krey
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:43:10 +, Joe Btfsplk wrote: ... > I believe in same TBB version (maybe the same in many versions) they > spoof the useragent & time zone, but wouldn't differences in screen > sizes & color bit ALONE, among a few users on one entry / exit > combination, at a given momen

Re: [tor-talk] panopticlick data

2013-10-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/1/2013 12:06 PM, Nicolas Vigier wrote: On Tue, 01 Oct 2013, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Not sure I understand the question in this context. Without cookies, I don't expect them to identify repeat visitors. I read their full paper on how they use the data collected https://panopticlick.eff.org/br

Re: [tor-talk] panopticlick data

2013-10-01 Thread Nicolas Vigier
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > On 10/1/2013 12:48 AM, Andreas Krey wrote: > >On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 21:08:58 +, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > >... > >>No cookies are set, so that doesn't affect outcome. In fact, the "bits > >>of identifying information" shown in results chart largely remain >

Re: [tor-talk] panopticlick data

2013-10-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/1/2013 12:48 AM, Andreas Krey wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 21:08:58 +, Joe Btfsplk wrote: ... No cookies are set, so that doesn't affect outcome. In fact, the "bits of identifying information" shown in results chart largely remain identical (except screen size sometimes changes), but th

Re: [tor-talk] panopticlick data

2013-09-30 Thread Andreas Krey
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 21:08:58 +, Joe Btfsplk wrote: ... > No cookies are set, so that doesn't affect outcome. In fact, the "bits > of identifying information" shown in results chart largely remain > identical (except screen size sometimes changes), but their estimate of > "One in X browsers

Re: [tor-talk] panopticlick data

2013-09-30 Thread Andreas Krey
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:14:25 +, Joe Btfsplk wrote: ... > I don't know where / how it gets the screen size, but mine definitely > isn't 947 wide. It's actually a very common size. Tor browser seems to use the windows size as the display size. > I assume the color depth is bit value. Panopti

Re: [tor-talk] panopticlick data

2013-09-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 9/30/2013 6:14 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Info given on panopticlick.eff.org is a bit confusing in that some of it seems incorrect. If that makes a browser "more common," I guess it's a good thing. But some of the info it shows as incorrect is very "uncommon." That doesn't mean someone trying t

[tor-talk] panopticlick data

2013-09-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Info given on panopticlick.eff.org is a bit confusing in that some of it seems incorrect. If that makes a browser "more common," I guess it's a good thing. But some of the info it shows as incorrect is very "uncommon." That doesn't mean someone trying to finger print a browser would get the sa