Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-23 Thread Ivan Markin
Yes, this is correct. Some remarks: Allen: > To summarize, the info leakages for HS that do not use authorization are: > > - World at large can discover onion address using various directory > enumeration techniques. > - HS directory can track HS descriptor uploads and downloads and tie > those t

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Flipchan
As soon as You "publish" the site it Will be added to the directory and someone will know Allen skrev: (21 december 2016 21:19:52 CET) >Hi Flipchan, I'm not concerned with limiting access--I'm concerned >with who if anyone is able to detect the existence and activity of the >HS, and more specifi

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Xinwen Fu
Sent from Fu's iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Allen wrote: > > I have a question about the privacy of hidden services. Let's say I > create a tor hidden service and privately send the onion address to > only two other people. Would anyone outside of myself and those two > people be a

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Allen
From the discussion and studying the specs, my understanding is that: The HS directory servers receive the HS public key aka onion address. The information leakages are: (1) through various HSdir enumeration techniques, the world at large can discover the HS public key and onion address; (2) the

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Allen
Hi Flipchan, I'm not concerned with limiting access--I'm concerned with who if anyone is able to detect the existence and activity of the HS, and more specifically at this point, who is able to detect the existence and activity of a HS that uses stealth auth when the onion address is only distribut

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Flipchan
Limit access for unwanted registerd like he says have A page and use /jdjenwlsishdjshdysoalwjdbebs instead of /login Allen skrev: (21 december 2016 20:57:47 CET) >> So yes, ideally encrypt your Introduction Points (basic) and >obfuscate >> identity keys (stealth) [this also encrypts sets of IPs

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Allen
> So yes, ideally encrypt your Introduction Points (basic) and obfuscate > identity keys (stealth) [this also encrypts sets of IPs]. Non-ideally, > use random slugs in URLs as OnionShare does (if you're doing web). ok, I'm not sure I completely understand. If my HS uses stealth auth, what data re

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Flipchan
There are researchers who monitor the HSDir to keep some stats on what goes Up and what goes down, general server security is A Good start. You can password protect alot. And restrict alot, then dissallow usr agents and so on Allen skrev: (21 december 2016 18:59:59 CET) >I have a question about

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Ivan Markin
Allen: > I have a question about the privacy of hidden services. Let's say I > create a tor hidden service and privately send the onion address to > only two other people. Would anyone outside of myself and those two > people be able to determine the onion address or monitor activity > related to

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread David Goulet
On 21 Dec (19:37:13), Aeris wrote: > > Would anyone outside of myself and those two > > people be able to determine the onion address > > Yes. Your onion address is published on a DHT, hosted accross all nodes with > HSDir flag. Some bad behaviouring relays try to enumerate all onion addresses >

Re: [tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Aeris
> Would anyone outside of myself and those two > people be able to determine the onion address Yes. Your onion address is published on a DHT, hosted accross all nodes with HSDir flag. Some bad behaviouring relays try to enumerate all onion addresses by massive HSDir node creation to fetch differ

[tor-talk] privacy of hidden services

2016-12-21 Thread Allen
I have a question about the privacy of hidden services. Let's say I create a tor hidden service and privately send the onion address to only two other people. Would anyone outside of myself and those two people be able to determine the onion address or monitor activity related to the hidden servi