Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-04 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/03/2015 06:25 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote: The Tor Project itself has found that users often don't verify GPG signatures on binaries (I think Mike Perry quoted some statistics about This might provide some insight:

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-04 Thread Dave Warren
On 2015-02-03 21:28, Andrew Roffey wrote: Except for the few big names, most domain providers do not provide inexpensive certificates so the point is not invalid (yet). I don't think changing domain providers to bundle the cost is a reasonable solution to the high costs of certificates. HTTPS

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-04 Thread CJ
On 04/02/15 13:19, Paul Syverson wrote: On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 06:58:28AM +0100, CJ wrote: On 02/04/2015 06:19 AM, Seth wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 20:01:36 -0800, Andrew Roffey and...@roffey.org wrote: - there is a cost of obtaining HTTPS signatures. Not certain if the deal is still

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-04 Thread Aymeric Vitte
Just for the story about startssl, unlike Confidant Mail which should use https, I think, despite of the fact that they don't trust it, like all of us, it's still better than nothing, I have explained several time here why we could not use https to retrieve the Peersm code. There was an

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-04 Thread Seth
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:28:42 -0800, Andrew Roffey and...@roffey.org wrote: I don't suppose one could purchase a dummy domain with Namecheap and then ask them to sign a certificate for the real domain (with another provider)? I suspect not, but please correct me if I'm wrong. That's a damn

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-04 Thread Paul Syverson
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 06:58:28AM +0100, CJ wrote: On 02/04/2015 06:19 AM, Seth wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 20:01:36 -0800, Andrew Roffey and...@roffey.org wrote: - there is a cost of obtaining HTTPS signatures. Not certain if the deal is still being offered, but for quite a while

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Seth David Schoen
Mike Ingle writes: As far as HTTPS: The NSA has the ability to get into Amazon EC2 and mess with files too, no doubt. And they have a variety of compromised HTTPS CA certs they could use to MITM. If they wanted to do that they could, HTTPS or no. If they did it on a large scale, they would

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Mike Ingle
SSL: I get it, a lot of people think I should have SSL support on the website. I will look into it. Until then (and even after) check the sigs. Nuff said. Back to Confidant Mail: interesting project, kind of reminds me of BitMessage, though it seems to be more usable (by far). I looked at

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Andrew Roffey
michael ball: On *Tue Feb 3, Mike Ingle wrote:* I don't have HTTPS because there is nothing secret on the site, and because I don't place much trust in it i may be mistaken that it is kinda stupid not to use HTTPS on a website with downloads, as documents released by Ed Snowden show that

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Mike Ingle
That is an interesting point. Thinking this through in the game theory sense: Spooks' choice: 1: never mess with Tor downloads 2: mess with Tor downloads in rare cases of high value targets (where a selector like IP or cookie matches) 3: frequently mess with Tor downloads Effect of 1: they

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Andrew Roffey
Seth: On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 20:01:36 -0800, Andrew Roffey and...@roffey.org wrote: - there is a cost of obtaining HTTPS signatures. Not certain if the deal is still being offered, but for quite a while you could get a free TLS/SSL certificate good for one year when registering or

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread CJ
On 02/04/2015 06:19 AM, Seth wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 20:01:36 -0800, Andrew Roffey and...@roffey.org wrote: - there is a cost of obtaining HTTPS signatures. Not certain if the deal is still being offered, but for quite a while you could get a free TLS/SSL certificate good for one year

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Andrew Roffey
- there is a cost of obtaining HTTPS signatures. Oops, I meant HTTPS certificates, not signatures. Andrew -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Seth
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 20:01:36 -0800, Andrew Roffey and...@roffey.org wrote: - there is a cost of obtaining HTTPS signatures. Not certain if the deal is still being offered, but for quite a while you could get a free TLS/SSL certificate good for one year when registering or transferring a

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Seth David Schoen
Andrew Roffey writes: michael ball: On *Tue Feb 3, Mike Ingle wrote:* I don't have HTTPS because there is nothing secret on the site, and because I don't place much trust in it i may be mistaken that it is kinda stupid not to use HTTPS on a website with downloads, as documents

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Mike Ingle
Non-www A record is added, and should show up soon. As far as HTTPS: The NSA has the ability to get into Amazon EC2 and mess with files too, no doubt. And they have a variety of compromised HTTPS CA certs they could use to MITM. If they wanted to do that they could, HTTPS or no. If they did it

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Mike Ingle
On 2/3/2015 10:31 AM, Kevin wrote: On 2/3/2015 12:33 PM, krishna e bera wrote: On 15-02-02 09:57 PM, Mike Ingle wrote: http://www.confidantmail.org Mike Ingle m...@confidantmail.org d2b89e6f95e72e26e0c917d02d1847dfecfcd0c2 I am curious why someone delivering security and privacy software does

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 2/4/15, Mike Ingle m...@confidantmail.org wrote: On 2/3/2015 10:31 AM, Kevin wrote: On 2/3/2015 12:33 PM, krishna e bera wrote: On 15-02-02 09:57 PM, Mike Ingle wrote: http://www.confidantmail.org Mike Ingle m...@confidantmail.org d2b89e6f95e72e26e0c917d02d1847dfecfcd0c2 I am curious why

Re: [tor-talk] Confidant Mail

2015-02-03 Thread Kevin
On 2/3/2015 3:56 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 2/4/15, Mike Ingle m...@confidantmail.org wrote: On 2/3/2015 10:31 AM, Kevin wrote: On 2/3/2015 12:33 PM, krishna e bera wrote: On 15-02-02 09:57 PM, Mike Ingle wrote: http://www.confidantmail.org Mike Ingle m...@confidantmail.org