Re: [tor-talk] Any Windows Software shipping Tor 0.2.4.23?

2015-07-31 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Roman Mamedov r...@romanrm.net wrote: Vuze ships with a client embedded Really, does it? It says they include built-in I2P support in a newer plugin, It was in there a year ago, try running a current vuze and look under: config options plugins tor helper --

Re: [tor-talk] Any Windows Software shipping Tor 0.2.4.23?

2015-07-31 Thread Paul Gardner
On 7/31/2015 5:24 PM, grarpamp wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Roman Mamedov r...@romanrm.net wrote: Vuze ships with a client embedded Really, does it? It says they include built-in I2P support in a newer plugin, It was in there a year ago, try running a current vuze and look under:

Re: [tor-talk] Profiling Tor users via keystrokes

2015-07-31 Thread spriver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Артур Истомин: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:42:49AM +0200, fatal wrote: win10 analyses keystrokes by default: Windows 10 generates advertising-IDs for everyone. The informations Win10 transmitts by default are (among other things): -

Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread Harmony
On 2015-07-31 10:48, John Loughlin wrote: Dearest Tor, Before I download you and start loving you, let's have a little *dtr. *I have one question: How do I know that sundry spies out there will *not*, while I'm downloading you/signing-up the first time, steal my log-in creds *on the spot

Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread Speak Freely
In an attempt to try to help clean up tor-talk, partly because I've been to blame for getting this mailing-list off topic several times... John, if you have any general questions, you can email me directly and I will try to answer them as best I can. I think it's great you're interested how it

[tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread John Loughlin
Dearest Tor, Before I download you and start loving you, let's have a little *dtr. *I have one question: How do I know that sundry spies out there will *not*, while I'm downloading you/signing-up the first time, steal my log-in creds *on the spot *and follow me right into Tor land? The

Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

2015-07-31 Thread Cari Machet
dear roger that is your opinion all these things you state are conjecture and not based in any formulated fact or even a tiny little data set what was being discussed was incredibly important and as far as i am concerned you are putting up a wall and telling people to keep their mouths shut

Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

2015-07-31 Thread Virgil Griffith
shut which i think is profoundly antithetical to anything ANYONE working on tor project would desire Being asked to take a conversation to another room so the communal space remains productive in other ways coincides with the desire of many adults working on the Tor project. On Sat, 1 Aug 2015

Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

2015-07-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/31/15, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote: dear roger that is your opinion Roger D: ... please think through whether it contributes usefully to the topic at hand, and whether it contributes *sufficiently* for many thousands of people to read it. Roger asked us to think, before we

[tor-talk] Researchers improve de-anonymization attacks for sites hiding on Tor

2015-07-31 Thread bao song
Researchers improve de-anonymization attacks for sites hiding on Tor |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Researchers improve de-anonymization attacks for sites h...Attackers controlling entry nodes on the Tor network could find the location of hidden services or unmask users visiting them. | |

[tor-talk] Delete and migrate your junk off GoogleCode by August 25 !!!

2015-07-31 Thread grarpamp
It's going away, so if you've got stuff there you want to delete and manage without interacting with their humans and policy/archive wonks, do it now!!! http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2015/03/farewell-to-google-code.html https://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/ReadOnlyTransition

Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread John Loughlin
Aha! Thank you, Matt. I'm sure there is more to learn. In essence, I want to be able to communicate off radar w a specific set of folks, but wo having to drag them into a darknet arena they may not be comfy with bc of religious convictions. Nothing nefarious, but needfully underground for their

Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread I
John, Tor is just an encrypted browsing system so there's nothing to do to get in except download and use it. To be more protected you might have a look at Surveillance Self-defence https://ssd.eff.org/ at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. There are a number of things there to make using

Re: [tor-talk] badfamilies: searching for undeclared families

2015-07-31 Thread nusenu
Anyone tried looking for rolling restart timestamps across relays, such as via iterative management scripts? yes, but most hits (spikes) are caused by hibernating relays coming back all at the same time. So you want to combine it with something else like first_seen, 10 hits based on that

Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 5:00 PM, John Loughlin johnallanlough...@gmail.com wrote: In essence, I want to be able to communicate off radar w a specific set of folks, but wo having to drag them into a darknet arena they may not be comfy with If I need more than Tor, mind sharing how i might go

Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

2015-07-31 Thread Cari Machet
right because 'tor talk' is not 'open' to TALK about underlying philosophical issues regarding critique of actuals within the tor framework NEED NEW LIST TO ELIMINATE THE 'BAD APPLES' i want to take a poll how many people on this list have the dna of western european descent how many identify as

Re: [tor-talk] Researchers improve de-anonymization attacks for sites hiding on Tor

2015-07-31 Thread Cari Machet
another great reason no one should talk about let alone think about building new/different shit On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:24 AM, bao song michaelw...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Researchers improve de-anonymization attacks for sites hiding on Tor | | | | | | | | | | | Researchers

[tor-talk] Passing links from command line to Tor Browser

2015-07-31 Thread jonas hedman
Hi, I'm wondering if it might be possible to pass links from command the command line into a already open and running tor browser? I've managed to open TBB to a specific urls on startup by adding no-remote to the ./firefox... lines in the start-tor-browser script. But how about passing links

Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

2015-07-31 Thread Chris Dagdigian
+1 for creating a tor-opentalk list if we need to satisfy the keyboard philosophers, communal fetishists and other interesting characters who need an audience to preen/preach in front of. Although I did find the the original start of this thread to be pretty interesting. Like many others

[tor-talk] Any Windows Software shipping Tor 0.2.4.23?

2015-07-31 Thread nusenu
Hi, I'm wondering why do most new Windows Tor relays choose to run an old tor version (v0.2.4.23)? Is anyone aware of software (incl. malware) that ships Tor v0.2.4.23 for Windows? (config: OrPort 443, DirPort 9030, nick: default) thanks background:

Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

2015-07-31 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Researchers improve de-anonymization attacks for sites hiding on Tor another great reason no one should talk about let alone think about building new/different shit Exactly. I mention network fill / chaff on

Re: [tor-talk] Ubuntu Tor Packages

2015-07-31 Thread Chuck Peters
Roger Dingledine said: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:24:29PM +, Chuck Peters wrote: Ubuntu hasn't done a very good job of providing updates for Tor packages. I'm attempting to do something about it by submitting a request for Tor packages SRU (stable release update) micro version

Re: [tor-talk] Any Windows Software shipping Tor 0.2.4.23?

2015-07-31 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:36 PM, nusenu nus...@openmailbox.org wrote: Is anyone aware of software (incl. malware) that ships Tor v0.2.4.23 for Windows? https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nusenu/tor-network-observations/master/Windows_0.2.4.23_orport443_dirport9030_nickdefault.txt Vuze ships

Re: [tor-talk] Any Windows Software shipping Tor 0.2.4.23?

2015-07-31 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:58:40 -0400 grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:36 PM, nusenu nus...@openmailbox.org wrote: Is anyone aware of software (incl. malware) that ships Tor v0.2.4.23 for Windows?

Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

2015-07-31 Thread Cari Machet
and this is a great example of why you are life full and loved and others not so much On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:46 AM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Researchers improve de-anonymization attacks for sites

Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

2015-07-31 Thread Virgil Griffith
I propose the creation of an alternative mailing list where pressing issues like the ones in this thread can get airing, attention, and discussion they deserve. For such a list I propose the candidate name of tor-o...@lists.torptoject.org -V On Sat, 1 Aug 2015 at 04:45 Virgil Griffith

[tor-talk] Profiling Tor users via keystrokes

2015-07-31 Thread spencerone
Hi, flapflap: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/how-the-way-you-type-can-shatter-anonymity-even-on-tor/ says that apparently it's possible to deanonymise Tor users by analysing their keystrokes in input fields of websites. Is there need for modifications in the Tor Browser

Re: [tor-talk] Profiling Tor users via keystrokes

2015-07-31 Thread fatal
win10 analyses keystrokes by default: Windows 10 generates advertising-IDs for everyone. The informations Win10 transmitts by default are (among other things): - location of device - browser history - favorites - which Aaps are installed from the windows store - and data for

Re: [tor-talk] Profiling Tor users via keystrokes

2015-07-31 Thread Артур Истомин
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:42:49AM +0200, fatal wrote: win10 analyses keystrokes by default: Windows 10 generates advertising-IDs for everyone. The informations Win10 transmitts by default are (among other things): - location of device - browser history - favorites - which Aaps are