Re: [tor-talk] How to make TBB useable as system Tor, as Tor, Vidalia, pluggable transports system level replacement?

2015-01-26 Thread Libertas
On 01/24/2015 05:43 PM, Aeris wrote: Currently, I also need something more like Vidalia or ARM, for system wide usage, than TB, very limited for usage outside the web. What platform are you on? I'm pretty sure you can just use a daemon, the original way to use Tor. signature.asc

Re: [tor-talk] How to make TBB useable as system Tor, as Tor, Vidalia, pluggable transports system level replacement?

2015-01-26 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Libertas: On 01/24/2015 11:51 PM, Patrick Schleizer wrote: This feature wouldn't make anything worse for regular TBB users. Just those who would like to use it as system Tor would be free to do so. Remember that every TB user that is identifiable because they don't go with the flow is one

Re: [tor-talk] How to make TBB useable as system Tor, as Tor, Vidalia, pluggable transports system level replacement?

2015-01-26 Thread Patrick Schleizer
carlo von lynX: I like Patrick's initiative. Thanks! :) Please, make it possible to have Tor solutions that are more timely than debian but less intrusive than TAILS (I hate when I can't have my own unix configuration with all of my preferred apps). Tails has the same issue. They're also

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Greg Norcie
Which is worse (assuming someone isn't worried about violence being directed at them): Using TorBirdy, or plain old SMTP? -- Greg Norcie (gnor...@indiana.edu) PhD Student, Security Informatics Indiana University On 1/26/15 4:33 AM, Vignesh Prabhu wrote: Hi, Cypher: A few months ago, I seem

Re: [tor-talk] How to make TBB useable as system Tor, as Tor, Vidalia, pluggable transports system level replacement?

2015-01-26 Thread carlo von lynX
I like Patrick's initiative. Please, make it possible to have Tor solutions that are more timely than debian but less intrusive than TAILS (I hate when I can't have my own unix configuration with all of my preferred apps). On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 02:17:29AM -0500, Libertas wrote: At that point,

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 1/27/15, Dave Warren da...@hireahit.com wrote: On 2015-01-26 03:10, Cypher wrote: Also, since the only data leaked seems to be the local datetime, I'd think it's not a massive concern since my local datetime is shared with a few million other people. While true, the time*zone* is also

[tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread spencerone
Cypher cypher at cpunk.us: A few months ago, I seem to remember the general advice being not to use Torbirdy. But I see the software was updated only a few months ago so I assume it's in active development. Can I assume Torbirdy is safe to use? Thanks! Cypher Jacob Appelbaum jacob at

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Dave Warren
On 2015-01-26 03:10, Cypher wrote: Also, since the only data leaked seems to be the local datetime, I'd think it's not a massive concern since my local datetime is shared with a few million other people. While true, the time*zone* is also mentioned, and timezones can be a more interesting

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Vignesh Prabhu
Hi, Cypher: A few months ago, I seem to remember the general advice being not to use Torbirdy. But I see the software was updated only a few months ago so I assume it's in active development. Can I assume Torbirdy is safe to use? From what I understand there are two main issues still pending

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Cypher
Vignesh Prabhu: Hi, Cypher: A few months ago, I seem to remember the general advice being not to use Torbirdy. But I see the software was updated only a few months ago so I assume it's in active development. Can I assume Torbirdy is safe to use? From what I understand there are two main

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 1/26/15, Greg Norcie gnor...@umail.iu.edu wrote: Which is worse (assuming someone isn't worried about violence being directed at them): Using TorBirdy, or plain old SMTP? Using TorBirdy is fine - the two time leaks are very small issues compared to using Thunderbird without TorBirdy. This is