Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/12/2012 10:41 AM, Brian Franklin wrote: Unknown makes a good point. The options should be set globally for all users of the Tor Bundle to avoid any profiling. Those who have a need for further configuration do so at their own risk. Good point. Originally, at least part of the Tor

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/12/2012 3:00 PM, Patrick Mézard wrote: For me, a more basic question is whether installing extensions from a fresh Tor installed is (sufficiently) safe. I do not know the details of the process but it probably involves some HTTPS connections to addons.mozilla.org. If the exit node can

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/12/2012 6:53 PM, Ted Smith wrote: The problem I see in Tor adopting AdBlock as a default-installed plugin is that it allows the controller of that list to censor websites without oversight. I think if AdBlock is installed by default in the Tor Browser Bundle, the list configured should be

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/12/2012 7:39 PM, AK wrote: I think Ghostery + Adblock Plus + No Script is overkill. Choose one. They all pretty much do the same thing. Block nasty javascript. No Script seems appropriate for the Tor Browser due to it's default aggressive stance on any javascript. But just curious, which

Re: [tor-talk] Scroogle is No More?

2012-02-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/21/2012 9:41 AM, Mr Dash Four wrote: Would be interesting to find out which particular aspect of your configuration is leading to that error message. That is not the issue - the fact that startpage is snooping to see whether I use privacy-oriented browser extension should be

Re: [tor-talk] Scroogle is No More?

2012-02-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/21/2012 4:58 PM, Greg Kalitnikoff wrote: Check this out http://privatelee.com/ Thanks. Will have a look. Tor-talk list administrators: Though this isn't church or a bible study, there's really no reason for a list subscriber to berate other subscribers basically spam the list by

Re: [tor-talk] on the topic of tor's weaknesses

2012-02-25 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/25/2012 3:23 PM, Chris Wheeler wrote: Joe, I don't think that the order that the packet are sent and received from the exit relay really changes the ease of correlation, since they will arrive to the other end of the network in the same order. 1st, thanks for reply. You misunderstood (I

Re: [tor-talk] An external application is needed...

2012-03-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/9/2012 9:17 AM, Tor User wrote: Hi, I was always wondering why I get the following pop-up message when downloading a file. And it does not happen all the time. Why it says that an external app is needed when only opening the download window? *An external application is needed to

Re: [tor-talk] EVIL bug Linux Tor Browser Bundle (2.2.35-8)

2012-03-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/19/2012 1:11 PM, clarissabryant wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:51:17 -, m...@tormail.net wrote: Wow, Anonymous! Wow, what an amazing, bug. Drama. Clearly exposing your own browsing on your own file system on your own computer is a conspiracy of epic proportions. If the existence of

[tor-talk] trouble changing Aurora menu button color - userChrome.css

2012-03-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Do others find that Aurora (no longer says Aurora) has almost the same orange color as Firefox for main menu button, to be confusing, when have TBB Firefox both open (I believe the UI element name is appmenu-button.)? I'm unable to correctly edit the userChrome.css file in TBB profile, to

Re: [tor-talk] trouble changing Aurora menu button color - userChrome.css

2012-03-24 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/22/2012 11:28 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Do others find that Aurora (no longer says Aurora) has almost the same orange color as Firefox for main menu button, to be confusing, when have TBB Firefox both open (I believe the UI element name is appmenu-button.)? I'm unable to correctly edit

Re: [tor-talk] How can the video play in TBB without plagins?

2012-03-25 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/25/2012 6:16 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:14:54 + James Brownjbrownfi...@gmail.com wrote: How cat that nice video https://media.torproject.org/video/2009-install-and-use-tor-browser-bundle.ogv play in TBB when my plagin Shockware Flash is disable? We use ogg

Re: [tor-talk] How can the video play in TBB without plagins?

2012-03-26 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/25/2012 10:56 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 20:37:55 -0500 Joe Btfsplkjoebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: Don't you have to opt in to the html5 videos (or technology), thus meaning creating an acct on (youtube)? Or has that changed? No, you do not have to login to youtube, nor even

Re: [tor-talk] How can the video play in TBB without plagins?

2012-03-26 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/26/2012 12:10 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote: TBB deletes cookies when you quit it... It's true that Google can use cookies to track a particular Tor user within a TBB session, including from one Google site to another. Thanks for the input. My point exactly. Most users aren't going to

Re: [tor-talk] Forget Iran- beware of US isp's

2012-04-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/12/2012 1:15 PM, BlueStar88 wrote: Am Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:24:10 -0400 schrieb David H. Lipmandlip...@verizon.net: From: punkle jonespunkle.jo...@gmail.com No offence, but you may better pull the plug... Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching you. Paranoia is

Re: [tor-talk] problem with cache preferences in TBB

2012-04-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/14/2012 2:29 PM, hepta tor wrote: Hi the IP anonymity test at http://ip-check.info/ suggests that browser.cache.memory.enable should be set to 'false'. in TBB from about:config I set it to false but on every restart it is set again to 'true' (however this is not the case for

Re: [tor-talk] Restarting Firefox

2012-04-16 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/16/2012 12:58 PM, AK wrote: I think this should work: 1) Remove the lines: BrowserDirectory=. BrowserExecutable=firefox from Data/Vidalia/vidalia.conf 2) Add the line SocksPort 9050 to Data/Tor/torrc 3)./App/Firefox/firefox -P no-remote and create and run a new profile with

Re: [tor-talk] testing, please ignore

2012-04-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Make sure it's not getting filtered as spam by your ISP. That happened to me. I just added Tor-talk to my address book. On 4/21/2012 2:55 PM, eliaz wrote: This is just a test; please ignore it. Since I changed my tormail address from .net to .org resubscribed to tor-talk from the new

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.3.14-alpha is out

2012-04-26 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/23/2012 2:38 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: Tor 0.2.3.14-alpha fixes yet more bugs to get us closer to a release candidate. It also dramatically speeds up AES: fast relays should consider switching to the newer OpenSSL library. https://www.torproject.org/download/download Where is

[tor-talk] dropping Google as default search was ethically correct

2012-05-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Many other list subscribers I hounded on dropping Google as default search engine in Tor Browser. Some didn't get why, were opposed or had no opinion. Mike Perry announced in the Trac change request that now StartPage will be the default search engine. Some won't agree w/ dropping Google as

Re: [tor-talk] please UN-subscribe me to your mailing list thank you

2012-05-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/3/2012 12:52 PM, crowman99 wrote: please UN-subscribe me to your mailing list thank you https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk Follow the link unsubscribe yourself. Very easy. ___ tor-talk mailing list

Re: [tor-talk] Basic questions from new user but...

2012-05-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/9/2012 6:56 PM, Elena Johnson wrote: I have a feeling other newbies might benefit. 3 questions below (if tor-talk is not appropriate for these questions, PLEASE let me know what the appropriate contact is) . I have read the FAQ's, much documentation, and searched the broader web but

Re: [tor-talk] Basic questions from new user but...

2012-05-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/10/2012 3:45 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2012 17:56:34 -0600 Elena Johnsonmmai...@hotmail.com wrote: 1) Can I ANONYMOUSLY allow scripts for hotmail, gmail and yahoo mail using Tor browser? The answer is here, https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#TBBJavaScriptEnabled

Re: [tor-talk] Basic questions from new user but...

2012-05-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/11/2012 7:21 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Joe Btfsplkjoebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: Isn't this approach very much a double edged sword? From the link: However, we recommend that even users who know how to use NoScript leave JavaScript enabled if possible,

Re: [tor-talk] Cannot connect to Tor any more.

2012-05-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/13/2012 11:57 AM, Aaron Whiteman wrote: Hi, Further to yesterday's e-mail, here are some detailed logs which explain my problem. Is the problem circuit_build_times_set_timeout_worker(): and, if so, how to deal with it. The logs below should a non-VPN connection (connection via a VPN

[tor-talk] any issue with TBB extensions auto updating?

2012-05-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Is there any anonymity / fingerprinting issue(s) w/ extension shipped w/ TBB auto updating during a Tor session? Default setting in TBB in Addons Extension under drop box, Update Add-ons Automatically is checked. Do No Script, HTTPS Everywhere, TorButton automatically update when the

Re: [tor-talk] Evercookies / supercookies tracking No Script whitelisting tracking sites

2012-05-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/14/2012 3:52 PM, Mike Perry wrote: Let's continue speculating instead of reading any documentation. That's totally a productive use of everyone's time. https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/#new-identity

Re: [tor-talk] unsubscribe me from mailing list

2012-05-16 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/16/2012 1:37 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:31:22PM -0700, Jaime wrote: I do not wish to continue receiving emails from you thank you ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org

Re: [tor-talk] Is my ISP censoring my access to Tor?

2012-05-18 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/16/2012 1:20 PM, Aaron Whiteman wrote: I can no longer connect to the Tor Network. I used to be able to use it perfectly well. I would be very grateful for any help. I've spent several hours trying to deal with this issue! My ISP has either irrationally started to block Tor or there

Re: [tor-talk] Is my ISP censoring my access to Tor?

2012-05-18 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Socks listener listening on port 50364 Is this correct? Shouldn't it be Socks listening on port 9050; control listener on port 9051 - or does that matter? It appears that the SOCKS port is now random for the Tor Browser Bundle. Starting when? I'm using 2.2.35-11 the only thing in my unedited

Re: [tor-talk] Adobe Flash

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/19/2012 5:51 PM, Mike Perry wrote: Admittedly, we're in a similar position with Mozilla (which is one of the reasons I prefer them over Google for a fork base). You're not serious, that anyone would ever consider Chrome for one second, to adapt for any project that had privacy (or

Re: [tor-talk] google analytics says it can track across separate domains

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/19/2012 5:00 PM, Mike Perry wrote: If you prevent the associated identifier transmission and fingerprinting issues, web beacons do not link your activity on one url to another. If we prevent identifier transmission and fingerpritning, web beacons will see both visits, but they do not know

Re: [tor-talk] google analytics says it can track across separate domains

2012-05-19 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/19/2012 9:17 PM, Mike Perry wrote: I'm confused. What vectors do you belief remain that we have not covered a few dozen times in this thread and others? You smell a lot like a timewasting troll... I'm trying to help you understand what we're doing because I think it's important for

[tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-07-31 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Has anyone successfully created a GMX email acct using Tor? It won't work for me - just get Sorry, cannot process registration at this time. At lst, it wouldn't let me copy / paste PW twice - 2nd box showed diff # of asterisks gave PWs don't match error. That session timed out on me. I set

Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-07-31 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/31/2012 7:26 PM, jed c wrote: This is a wacky idea. No harm in trying though. How about trying something like hidemyass through tor? I know it doesnt really provide anonymity, but maybe it will mask your location long enough to open an account. If you can open the account then reset your

Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/1/2012 1:56 PM, adrelanos wrote: If you connect to Tor first, then visit hidemyass or similar and then register, if you do that only once, I see no problem with that as long you only use it for registration and not entering identifying data. Note that hidemyass or similar will know the

Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/1/2012 3:04 PM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: I have 1 idea for this Why cannot tor be used in such a way: as a home user, i am willing to let tor users use my connection for a few sites. gmail gmx and other mail sites for example. Can we have some option that lets home tor users share their

Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/1/2012 4:45 PM, adrelanos wrote: Got it. Good point. There has been very few research done on that subject. Always makes sense to use a trustworthy mail provider as an activist instant of a non-trustworthy. Even if you use GPG. They can still try a targeted attack on your browser of tell

Re: [tor-talk] how does Tor generate IP Address

2012-08-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/2/2012 11:07 AM, anu nivas wrote: Hello, I would like to know how IP addresses are generated by Tor. If I use Tor , is there a chance that my IP address would be assigned as proxy address of another Tor client? If you mean, a chance that your REAL ISP - assigned address; assigned to your

Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/1/2012 9:17 PM, grarpamp wrote: Riseup has been recommend by (imho) trustworthy and honest people. RiseUp is that place that makes you fill out *why* you want one of their free accounts, your activism. What do you guys put in there? Can you just leave it blank? Or say 'not applicable', no

Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/2/2012 6:04 PM, Douglas Lucas wrote: I use riseup. My current storage quota -- which I believe would be yours, were you to sign up -- is 92 MB. Riseup says the storage quota fluctuates a bit and might go up in the future. I think you can also request a higher quota if you have good reasons.

Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012, at 23:19, Joe Btfsplk wrote: So, big surprise, lots of people are using Tor addresses then doing crap to give it (certain addresses, anyway) a bad name get blacklisted. I guess that is an example of taking things out of context. A lot of people give ISPs a bad name. A lot

[tor-talk] Creating email accounts via Tor was: Re: anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/3/2012 1:08 PM, antispa...@sent.at wrote: Good to know, but how? How'd you create Gmail acct w/ Tor not give mobile #? How did you get GMX to accept a Tor address (got lucky?). Hahaha Haha??? :( how long / how much effort did it take; what techniques were used? Did some just get

Re: [tor-talk] Solved_sort of: Creating email accounts via Tor_ was: Re: anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I guess GMX just has no interest in helping honest, hard-working whistle blowers out. Their loss. They may just block many Tor exit nodes, cause I'm pretty sure everything in Tor was perfect Even turned off NoScript. Another popular provider was happy to sign me up via Tor, anxious to get

Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/4/2012 5:11 AM, dumbnewbie wrote: The only way I've been able to create a Gmail account recently was through an Android tablet. I installed Orbot and Orweb APKs so all traffic was through Tor at the time, then created the account through Settings Acounts Sync Add Account. I was

Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?

2012-08-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/4/2012 2:00 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: For what it's worth, I created a gmail account last week from my home, ordinary internet connection, argentina, and the phone # was not needed. But maybe that was because my IP was 'legitimate'? That's a very interesting question / comment. Also

[tor-talk] effect of Tor exit IP addresses listed on a few blacklists?

2012-08-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
1st, this isn't a GMX thing, although their (canned, I believe) replies to support questions, got me to wondering in a much broader way - what are overall effects of any exit node IP address being on even 3 or 4 blacklists out of ~ 75 blacklist sites?

Re: [tor-talk] effect of Tor exit IP addresses listed on a few blacklists?

2012-08-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/5/2012 4:56 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: 1st, this isn't a GMX thing, although their (canned, I believe) replies to support questions, got me to wondering in a much broader way - what are overall effects of any exit node IP address being on even 3 or 4 blacklists out of ~ 75 blacklist sites

Re: [tor-talk] Help with Tor and Flash Player plugin struggle

2012-10-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/11/2012 3:07 PM, Kamtarin Sorood wrote: * Hello I don't know what is the reason for your insistence on using FireFox bundled into Tor browser package while privacy and maximum security is not the case. After lunching bundled FireFox and showing welcome screen you can minimize that and

[tor-talk] ads slow Tor Browser dramatically

2012-11-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Most everyone's read the advice about not using extra addons / plugins in TBB, due to possible anonymity leaks. I understand. TBB is already slow, which is understandable. Using stock TBB that allows ads possibly other items increasing bandwidth is far slower on many sites - even news sites

Re: [tor-talk] ads slow Tor Browser dramatically

2012-11-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/2/2012 10:29 PM, k e bera wrote: I'm not sure why there would be leaks with ABP. Afaik it doesnt send information. However it does update its blocklists which might be language-specific, which splits the anonymity set (if i understand the concept). Regarding use of ABP itself among

[tor-talk] Confusion about Tor log messages showing relay addresses

2012-11-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Using Win TBB 2.2.39-5. Noticed a popup from Tor, saying a particular port was being used by an application that could leak info. Besides that SAME port #, that many pop ups repeatedly mentioned, noticed many similar warnings in the Tor log. Investigated several warning addresses in my FW /

Re: [tor-talk] Confusion about Tor log messages showing relay addresses

2012-11-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/3/2012 6:15 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Follow up. Noticed that almost every address listed as a WARNING in Tor log, as _possibly leaking my destination_, was the address of a relay that was in process of or had just been closed - best I could tell. For the last relay in the network map

Re: [tor-talk] Possible Linux torbundle issues

2012-11-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/4/2012 9:40 AM, House Nigga wrote: Hi. Why does the Firefox browser in the torbundle constantly reset the home page to the tor test page? Why does Noscript 2.5.8 in options-advanced tab-do not filter objects coming from these sites, not let you remove .hulu.com and .youtube.com? Aren't

Re: [tor-talk] ads slow Tor Browser dramatically

2012-11-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/4/2012 5:45 AM, and...@torproject.is wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 01:06:50PM -0500, joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote 1.3K bytes in 26 lines about: : TBB is already slow, which is understandable. Using stock TBB : that allows ads possibly other items increasing bandwidth is far : slower on

Re: [tor-talk] ads slow Tor Browser dramatically

2012-11-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/6/2012 4:44 PM, Mike Perry wrote: I am deeply opposed to shipping an always-on universal adblocker with the default TBB. I think it would be political suicide in terms of accomplishing our goals with acceptance of Tor users by sites, lobbying for private browsing origin changes, and

Re: [tor-talk] ads slow Tor Browser dramatically

2012-11-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/7/2012 10:27 AM, Julian Yon wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:14:25 + adrelanos adrela...@riseup.net wrote: Aside from my thoughts on advertising as an adversary, I do think that the load on the network and associated slowdown is a problem. I only run a relay on and off but I do wonder

Re: [tor-talk] ads slow Tor Browser dramatically

2012-11-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/7/2012 11:09 PM, Julian Yon wrote: It's not specific to AdBlock. If everybody used exactly the same fixed list it wouldn't be an issue. But not there are a zillion ad networks out there and incredible as it is some people actually click the damn things. After all, if they didn't the

Re: [tor-talk] Denied with disposable/free mail services?

2012-11-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/8/2012 2:53 PM, grarpamp wrote: What forum[s], or categories of forums, feel they are so in tune with their userbase as to be able to deny access to the untold millions of legitimate (and exclusive) users of free email services (gmail, yahoo, etc)? I don't know. I just know the

Re: [tor-talk] Is using JavaScript with Tor browser safe?

2012-11-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/9/2012 8:19 AM, Nam Su wrote: I saw some Internet pages. In there, they can know my ip with JavaScript in spite of using Tor. I can't believe this but I am worried about this. Is it true? Short answer is no, if you don't change a bunch of default settings in TBB, or don't use addons /

Re: [tor-talk] check.torproject.org

2012-11-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/9/2012 9:49 AM, The Doctor wrote: Did something go pear-shaped with check.torproject.org? I've not been able to get it to respond (through the TBB or otherwise) for the past day or so. It's down for me too. You could use another What's my IP lookup site, that gives name / location of

[tor-talk] no

2012-11-25 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I hope that Alessandro will be reminded / warned about commercial advertising on the Tor-talk list - Re: Tor help Though no fees are mentioned, if there a many agents waiting 24 hrs / day, they'd have to charge fees. That is, unless the whole thing / phone number is a scam.

Re: [tor-talk] William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

2012-11-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I forgot - did someone say they keep cash extra phone in a safe deposit box (pre paid or contract? Contract phone is no use in a police crack down)? If a deposit box, judge could freeze that too, so better hide it in someone else's house. And what are they gonna say about that? I need to

Re: [tor-talk] William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

2012-12-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 12/1/2012 10:10 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: If Tor servers are just glorified routers then they could be considered more as transit providers and not responsible for content transiting through them. However, if a transit service goes out of its way to hide the identity of the sender of a

Re: [tor-talk] William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

2012-12-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 12/1/2012 1:28 PM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: Please also keep in mind, if it's relevant, that *no warrant* is required for data that is stored by a third-party. Data on a server, TOR or otherwise, would by definition be data that is stored by a third party. Which means that if there

Re: [tor-talk] William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

2012-12-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 12/1/2012 4:22 PM, Julian Yon wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:42:45 -0600 Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: How much is 10,000 EU anyway - $100 USD? I knew I shouldn't have written that - too many people don't get satire / comedic sarcasm

Re: [tor-talk] Mail service requires java script enabled

2013-01-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
His subj. said java script, but in the message he said Java. Not many, if any web mails REQUIRE java. But many sites, incl. many web mails need js - at least to login. You might be able to get around w/o js, once logged in. There's no way around not using js, on some sites, if you want it to

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/11/2013 6:47 PM, bvvq wrote: Hi tor-talk, I'm not sure where else to ask this question so I give my apologies if this is off-topic. Please feel free to suggest a better list/forum/website. I've had a personal email account with GMail since it was invite-only, but lately I've read a

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/11/2013 9:51 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote: There are some good ones out there, but if you're using Tor to create the account and login, you should know that many have started blocking Tor users (or deactivating their accounts in the case of Yahoo). Size could also be an issue, but if you're

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/11/2013 10:04 PM, grarpamp wrote: * Privacy-conscious (don't parse my emails to target advertisements to Anonymous-/encryption-type services offered by HushMail or Safe-Mail That rules out gmail, yahoo, hotmail/live. Few services will state they don't, and statements are no guarantee.

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/12/2013 8:41 AM, Ted Smith wrote: I use riseup.net -- I trust their promise not to store any logs, I know they'll never block Tor, and they don't have any ads in their web interface. That said, if you're financially stable in a first-world country, you should probably throw some bitcoins

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/12/2013 12:47 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote: On 12.02.2013 17:09, Jan Reister wrote: Il 12/02/2013 10:42, Roman Mamedov ha scritto: In the past I used http://www.autistici.org/en/services/mail.html I recommend autistici.org if you are in Europe, it's based in Italy. Reliable service with

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/13/2013 3:58 AM, bvvq wrote: On 12/02/2013 3:15 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Here's an article someone pointed out on email providers privacy; if allow signing up w/ Tor, etc.: the_simple_computer http://www.thesimplecomputer.info/articles/email-for-privacy.html They all have + -, depending

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/13/2013 2:14 PM, the_simple_computer wrote: Hi guys girls, I'm the person behind /the_simple_computer/, nice to see the site making the rounds here. ... ... If anyone spots any errors in the email article or something that doesn't align with their observations (grammar nazis also

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/13/2013 3:47 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 2/13/2013 3:58 AM, bvvq wrote: On 12/02/2013 3:15 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Here's an article someone pointed out on email providers privacy; if allow signing up w/ Tor, etc.: the_simple_computer http://www.thesimplecomputer.info/articles/email

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/14/2013 4:42 AM, adrelanos wrote: Moritz Bartl: On 13.02.2013 22:47, Joe Btfsplk wrote: I suppose even providers offering encryption of files while on their server (like Lavabit), could read the mail just before it was encrypted / decrypted, since they are doing the encrypting. Even

Re: [tor-talk] Legal problems: TOR relay Torrents in .de

2013-02-16 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/16/2013 6:44 AM, Nick Sheppard wrote: On 04/02/13 12:33, Hendrik Neumann wrote: I've been running an exit node from my home network for ca. a year or so. Now I've receviced mail from 21st Century Fox's lawyers in Germany accusing me of torrenting a movie. Since all I offer via Torrent

Re: [tor-talk] Legal problems: TOR relay Torrents in .de

2013-02-17 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/17/2013 9:38 AM, Nick Sheppard wrote: On 04/02/13 12:33, Hendrik Neumann wrote: I've been running an exit node from my home network for ca. a year or so. Now I've receviced mail from 21st Century Fox's lawyers in Germany accusing me of torrenting a movie. Since all I offer via Torrent

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-18 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/18/2013 9:01 PM, Mysterious Flyer wrote: Um. I am the REAL mysteriousfl...@yahoo.com. I guess it's super-duper easy for a person's user names and passwords to get hacked when accessing e-mail over Tor. I also noticed that someone has been reading my gmails (since they were marked

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-19 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/19/2013 2:11 AM, adrelanos wrote: scarp: On 2/18/2013 9:01 PM, Mysterious Flyer wrote: Um. I am the REAL mysteriousfl...@yahoo.com. I guess it's super-duper easy for a person's user names and passwords to get hacked when accessing e-mail over Tor. I also noticed that someone has

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-19 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/19/2013 7:07 PM, Mysterious Flyer wrote: OK, more information on the circumstances: 1. The whole reason I started up with all this privacy and anonymous stuff was because someone had hacked my gmail account, and was trying to ruin my life. I happen to know from their IP address that

Re: [tor-talk] TorBrowser update???

2013-02-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/20/2013 10:47 AM, JerryR wrote: Hi, I'm new to this list, thank you all for your work and efforts; I've been using the TorBrowser for a while now, yesterday I tried to update it (tor-browser-2.3.25-2_en-US.exe), but, the There is a security update keeps showing up, I already

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/11/2013 9:51 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote: There are some good ones out there, but if you're using Tor to create the account and login, you should know that many have started blocking Tor users (or deactivating their accounts in the case of Yahoo). Size could also be an issue, but if you're

Re: [tor-talk] Legal problems: TOR relay Torrents in .de

2013-02-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/17/2013 11:40 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 04/02/13 12:33, Hendrik Neumann wrote: I've been running an exit node from my home network for ca. a year or so. Now I've receviced mail from 21st Century Fox's lawyers in Germany accusing me of torrenting a movie. Since all I offer via Torrent

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/21/2013 4:58 PM, survivd wrote: Seems like there's a bit of confusion regarding what a bad exit node can and can't do here. For many sites, you can trivially strip the SSL connection request as the exit node, downgrading it to vulnerable plaintext just by using ssl-strip. There'd be no

Re: [tor-talk] Mail services: Hotmail / Live, Outlook

2013-03-16 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/16/2013 10:24 AM, Tom Ritter wrote: On 15 March 2013 18:34, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: Don't know if this will always work, for all providers, but I have set torrc to use only exit nodes in my country I don't think this should be a recommended practice, because (while you

Re: [tor-talk] Mozilla Persona and Tor

2013-03-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/28/2013 7:08 PM, Mike Perry wrote: As far as I can tell, the email address convention was created for usability reasons, not as a protocol requirement. What does this mean?: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Persona _4. Best of all, there's *no lock-in*. Developers get a verified

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/29/2013 12:32 PM, Chris Patti wrote: Tor has a rather severe reputation problem at the moment. Given the recent revelations around malware on the network, and the pervasiveness of pedophilia, I think we should consider a course of action to help boost the network's PR. For one - while

Re: [tor-talk] Large search providers banning Tor exists, except for one!

2013-05-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/4/2013 4:04 AM, Simon Brereton wrote: If you search the list archives you will find a substantial report on the issues Google faces, Poor Google. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org

[tor-talk] Is using player like VLC safe alternative to Flash?

2013-05-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Question of playing Flash vids comes up constantly explanation given of why it can compromise anonymity in Tor Browser. Anyone done real investigation if using some media players, that handle playing Flash content directly from a URL, are any better at protecting anonymity than Flash Player?

[tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
TBB may have NoScript settings to not have checked Forbid Flash because it doesn't contain Flash Player. What about WebGL being blocked by default in NoScript? I thought this was supposed to be a much safer (not a threat to Tor) than Flash? ___

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 5:27 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote: https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/ WebGL can reveal information about the video card in use, and high precision timing information can be used to fingerprint the CPU and interpreter speed. [...] The adversary simply renders WebGL,

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 7:05 PM, Andrew F wrote: I am coming in late on this topic and know very little about it, But I have to ask, would it be possible to send fake information? I know that they use many variables to create a mosaic to identify people. So why not change several variables. Create some

Re: [tor-talk] memory cached pages should reload instantly-but DON'T

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 10:56 PM, David Vorick wrote: Are we sure this is a bug? Even when a page is in the cache doesn't it have to communicate with the server to verify that the cache hasn't expired? Perhaps this is what you are experiencing. Good question. What do YOU see, when hitting the back

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/8/2013 1:57 AM, Lunar wrote: Joe Btfsplk: OK, thanks for detailed reply. Now that the adversary has a fingerprint of my machine (therein lies the problem - the data being given out), unless they're the gubment I'm a bad guy (or living in a represses society), what are they going to do w

Re: [tor-talk] Is using player like VLC safe alternative to Flash?

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 8:46 PM, Tom Ritter wrote: VLC has a lot of stuff going on inside of it. I would not be surprised if there were proxy leaks that might be able to be forced by someone doing something tricky. Say you enter a url to a flash video and the content is intercepted and replaced with an

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/8/2013 3:01 PM, lu...@rankexploits.com wrote: Here's a likely example of what Lunar is talking about. If you visit this link you will be presented a survey form. http://survey.gci.uq.edu.au/survey.php?c=1R9YT8YMZTWF The javascript for that page creates a string listing: 1) every plugin

Re: [tor-talk] memory cached pages should reload instantly-but DON'T

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 10:56 PM, David Vorick wrote: Are we sure this is a bug? Even when a page is in the cache doesn't it have to communicate with the server to verify that the cache hasn't expired? Perhaps this is what you are experiencing. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Tom Ritter t...@ritter.vg

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/8/2013 3:01 PM, lu...@rankexploits.com wrote: Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 08:57:48 +0200 From: Lunar lu...@torproject.org To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not? Message-ID: 20130508065748.GA975@loar Content-Type: text/plain;

[tor-talk] Question on adding TBB UI changes to userChrome.css fingerprinting

2013-05-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I wonder if _instead_ of using addons for certain things in TBB, if the same effect can be achieved by using code in *userChrome.css file*, would that in any way allow pages to gather info on the UI changes, to use for fingerprinting? I know a lot can be detected, but I don't know that a tab

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