Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

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Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On 14/08/16 05:23 AM, shirish शिरीष wrote: at bottom :- On 13/08/2016, grarpamp wrote: Общество шифропанков http://vabu56j2ep2rwv3b.onion/ BitTorrent трэкер. http://vabu56j2ep2rwv3b.onion/Tracker.html Это одна из его установок которую вы можете использовать в своих torrent

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

at bottom :- On 13/08/2016, grarpamp wrote: > Общество шифропанков > http://vabu56j2ep2rwv3b.onion/ > BitTorrent трэкер. > http://vabu56j2ep2rwv3b.onion/Tracker.html > Это одна из его установок которую вы можете использовать в своих torrent > файлах. >

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

Le 18/06/2016 à 01:49, juan a écrit : > On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 23:20:16 +0200 > Aymeric Vitte wrote: > >> >> Le 17/06/2016 à 12:51, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : Even if an interesting move as you described (ie onions + onioncat) I > don't really think that it can

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

Le 18/06/2016 à 02:01, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:20:16PM +0200, Aymeric Vitte wrote: >> Le 17/06/2016 à 12:51, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : Even if an interesting move as you described (ie onions + onioncat) I > don't really think that it can scale to the

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:20:16PM +0200, Aymeric Vitte wrote: > Le 17/06/2016 à 12:51, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : > >> Even if an interesting move as you described (ie onions + onioncat) I > >> > don't really think that it can scale to the extent required by a bt p2p > >> > network, I don't think

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 23:20:16 +0200 Aymeric Vitte wrote: > > > Le 17/06/2016 à 12:51, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : > >> Even if an interesting move as you described (ie onions + > >> onioncat) I > >> > don't really think that it can scale to the extent required by a > >> >

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

Le 17/06/2016 à 12:51, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : >> Even if an interesting move as you described (ie onions + onioncat) I >> > don't really think that it can scale to the extent required by a bt p2p >> > network, I don't think either that using hidden services is a good >> > solution to reach

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:41:51PM +0200, Aymeric Vitte wrote: > Le 17/06/2016 à 06:55, grarpamp a écrit : > > On 6/10/16, Mirimir wrote: > >> But there's still the traffic load. Or maybe, one could consider it as > >> chaff. Just sort of, though. Right? > > If that's the old

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

Le 17/06/2016 à 06:55, grarpamp a écrit : > On 6/10/16, Mirimir wrote: >> But there's still the traffic load. Or maybe, one could consider it as >> chaff. Just sort of, though. Right? > If that's the old "OMG, too much" argument... load re anon overlay nets > may be more

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On 6/10/16, Mirimir wrote: > But there's still the traffic load. Or maybe, one could consider it as > chaff. Just sort of, though. Right? If that's the old "OMG, too much" argument... load re anon overlay nets may be more like bitcoin's interrelated variables... difficulty,

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, grarpamp wrote: > I2P embedded client is a webfront toy that does not scale. > Define scale as 100 to 1000+ torrents loaded in the app's > index for seeding. true I don't consider the usecase of 100 torrents on seed and/or download. I must say I fail to imagine its

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On 6/10/16, Jaromil wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, grarpamp wrote: >> > FTR there are I2P plugins for a vast range of external clients and > even an embedded new client. I2P embedded client is a webfront toy that does not scale. Define scale as 100 to 1000+ torrents loaded in

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/10/2016 06:51 PM, grarpamp wrote: > On 6/10/16, Aymeric Vitte wrote: >> [stuff] > > The OP subject is that - major bt indexes are now operating as > onions. > > Though those indexed torrents specify clearnet trackers,

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On 6/10/16, Aymeric Vitte wrote: > [stuff] The OP subject is that - major bt indexes are now operating as onions. Though those indexed torrents specify clearnet trackers, there are also now darknet trackers and users connecting to them and sharing among themselves with

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

Jaromil: > To my eyes and those of many others, So you are studdenly a whole forum. > Tor would be much more credible if it would acknowledge and respect > boundaries. Are you aware that 'Tor' is not a person? -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, grarpamp wrote: > BT client of choice. Similarly though a bit harder within I2P etc. FTR there are I2P plugins for a vast range of external clients and even an embedded new client. Oh and BTW there is even a C++ reimplementation of I2P. why "a bit harder"? look this is what

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

Le 10/06/2016 à 09:49, grarpamp a écrit : > On 6/9/16, Aymeric Vitte wrote: >> I don't care at all what you think about "my stuff" > Nor do I care to purchase clearnet tools or see people > spammed for it. Clearnet is noninteresting fossil. Purchase? Where did you see

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

Well like he says u cant proxy bittorrent traffic through tor cuz its udp grarpamp skrev: (9 juni 2016 06:52:35 CEST) >First come the clearnet indexes... > ># kickass torrents >http://lsuzvpko6w6hzpnn.onion/ ># the pirate bay >http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/ ># rutor

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On 6/9/16, Sean Lynch wrote: > Code, or it didn't happen. We have ideas up the wazoo. What we lack are > practical, usable implementations. I would really love to see this, but > there are any number of people who have already figured this out on their > own and don't need

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On 6/9/16, Aymeric Vitte wrote: > I don't care at all what you think about "my stuff" Nor do I care to purchase clearnet tools or see people spammed for it. Clearnet is noninteresting fossil. > wrong appreciation/description of it, Stuff, model, same diff. I've

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I don't care at all what you think about "my stuff" and your completely wrong appreciation/description of it, I was not referring to this only Apparently you are trying to revive some old concepts that just can't work with bittorrent "Which is why bittorrent is moving into the overlays", please

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:52 PM grarpamp wrote: [...] > # Putting the "Tor" back in Torrent > https://gist.github.com/obvio171/addb26214a8c159f84a8 > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8022341 Code, or it didn't happen. We have ideas up the wazoo. What we lack are

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On 6/9/16, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > The problem is getting the software in the first place. > Popcorn Time #1 got bullied off the web, then sprouted > two forks, neither of which could keep a stable url. > So you better not have a single hitch in your web server. Otherwise

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On 6/9/16, Aymeric Vitte wrote: > Missing something here or why do you post those old links without > mentioning newer projects? Some of your stuff depends on clearnet peers / services, I see no need for that in the new old world of anonymous overlay networks. Some of

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

Le 09/06/2016 à 06:52, grarpamp a écrit : > # Putting the "Tor" back in Torrent > https://gist.github.com/obvio171/addb26214a8c159f84a8 > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8022341 Missing something here or why do you post those old links without mentioning newer projects? -- Get the

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 12:52:35AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > First come the clearnet indexes... > > # kickass torrents ... Before I blinmked I read that as "first they came for the clearnet torrents" as a riff on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came... Might be topical at this moment:

Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

> # Putting the "Tor" back in Torrent https://gist.github.com/obvio171/addb26214a8c159f84a8 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8022341 The problem is getting the software in the first place.  Popcorn Time #1 got bullied off the web, then sprouted two forks, neither of which could keep a

[tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

First come the clearnet indexes... # kickass torrents http://lsuzvpko6w6hzpnn.onion/ # the pirate bay http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/ # rutor http://rutorc6mqdinc4cz.onion/ # btdigg http://btdigg63cdjmmmqj.onion/ # torrents md http://tmdwwwebwyuuqepd.onion/ # demonoid