Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-19 Thread sycamoreone
blo...@openmailbox.org: Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? I can't say anything interesting about torsocks as a program, and am a happy user. But there are some interesting gotchas, mostly caused by the convenient but unnecessary *magic* in modern interactive shells. One example: Type

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-19 Thread David Goulet
On 16 Feb (00:27:40), James Murphy wrote: On 02/15/2015 03:22 PM, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? A lot of the documentation (such as it is) is several years old. I would also like to know this. SSH

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-19 Thread sycamoreone
Just some clarification: sycamoreone: But there are some interesting gotchas, mostly caused by the convenient but unnecessary *magic* in modern interactive shells. unnecessary is probably the wrong word. I meant not strictly necessary and not useless. $ torsocks git push

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-18 Thread sycamoreone
Lars Luthman: [...] Step 5: Read the hidden service address from /var/lib/tor/ssh-hs/hostname, write it down somewhere. Once Tor has had a couple of minutes to get the service descriptor onto the network, try to connect ('usewithtor ssh your_hs_address.onion'). And once you a sure

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-18 Thread l.m
Hi, It sounds like you need to do a little introspection on why you want to torify your ssh. You've already confessed to having a lack of faith in your own technical ability. You need to ask yourself the question--what is my threat model? You want to connect to a VPS--how did you pay for this

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-18 Thread blobby
On 2015-02-16 22:56, Dave Warren wrote: On 2015-02-16 03:30, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: On 2015-02-16 02:31, Dave Warren wrote: On 2015-02-15 16:35, Mirimir wrote: On 02/15/2015 02:22 PM, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-18 Thread blobby
The rest of the server doesn't need to be a hidden server, and SSH can still listen as both a Tor hidden server and a regular public server, but by making it a hidden server within Tor, you remove one of the major risk factors of using Tor: The exit node. How about running torsocks via a

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-18 Thread Lars Luthman
On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 14:12 +, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: At the same time, perhaps I'm wrong and it's easy to set-up a hidden server to look for SSH connections? Perhaps I'm assuming that things are harder than they are in order to persuade myself not to learn. I'm also time poor

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-17 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 09:22:25PM +, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? A lot of the documentation (such as it is) is several years old. I believe many people happily use torsocks and rely on it. It's just as safe

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-17 Thread David Stainton
perhaps use stealth authenticated tor hidden service for your ssh to mitigate the ssh 0-day(s); obviously this is not just a tin foil hat practice anymore. On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Dave Warren da...@hireahit.com wrote: On 2015-02-16 03:30, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: On 2015-02-16

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-16 Thread Dave Warren
On 2015-02-16 03:30, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: On 2015-02-16 02:31, Dave Warren wrote: On 2015-02-15 16:35, Mirimir wrote: On 02/15/2015 02:22 PM, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? A lot of the documentation (such

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-16 Thread blobby
On 2015-02-16 02:31, Dave Warren wrote: On 2015-02-15 16:35, Mirimir wrote: On 02/15/2015 02:22 PM, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? A lot of the documentation (such as it is) is several years old. I prefer to run an

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-15 Thread Mirimir
On 02/15/2015 02:22 PM, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? A lot of the documentation (such as it is) is several years old. I prefer to run an SSH hidden service on the VPS. -- tor-talk mailing list -

[tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-15 Thread blobby
I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? A lot of the documentation (such as it is) is several years old. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-15 Thread l.m
I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? A lot of the documentation (such as it is) is several years old. Hi, I cannot comment on using torsocks but you can achieve the same result using netcat and the proxycommand of ssh/ssh_config. I found a Tor Wiki

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-15 Thread Dave Warren
On 2015-02-15 16:35, Mirimir wrote: On 02/15/2015 02:22 PM, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? A lot of the documentation (such as it is) is several years old. I prefer to run an SSH hidden service on the VPS. I'd tend

Re: [tor-talk] Tor over SSH (torsocks) (?)

2015-02-15 Thread James Murphy
On 02/15/2015 03:22 PM, blo...@openmailbox.org wrote: I want to login to my VPS over SSH. Is torsocks still a safe way to do this? A lot of the documentation (such as it is) is several years old. I would also like to know this. SSH hidden service setup and use are easy with torsocks.