Re: [tosdr:3149] Evernote not blacklisted

2014-08-23 Thread Michiel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thanks for reporting this! we'll have a look at it, and update our info as necessary. On 23.08.2014 12:01, lenabols...@gmail.com wrote: I use Evernote and am quite satisfied with their view on integrity. So I was surprised to see the warning on

Re: Disqus DMCA [good] ? [Fwd] [tosdr:3202] Re: Terms may be changed any time at their discretion, without notice to the user

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
Please provide a link to the text where they explain this. On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:17:44 PM UTC+2, Hugo Roy wrote: Just looking at the Disqus ToS, they don't mention DMCA counter-notices, although they do explain the DMCA notice-and-takedown process. Service providers aren't obligated

[tosdr:3203] Re: Tumblr has a separate agreement for Application Developers

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
Yeah, we're only rating for end users here. Dismissing. On Monday, July 8, 2013 10:14:57 PM UTC+2, Ian McGowan wrote: I'm not sure how relevant this is. On Monday, May 6, 2013 7:31:39 AM UTC-5, Ian McGowan wrote: If you develop software or services based on the Services or any Content,

[tosdr:3204] Re: Twitter [bad] Right to access

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hm, on the other hand, they probably get a lot of people trying to compromise celebrity accounts, so maybe it's just their way of being cautious? I'm not sure whether we should immediately judge this as them trying to discourage you or being lazy about how they offer this data export service.

[tosdr:3209] Re:

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
This thread is now closed On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:13:07 PM UTC+2, Ian McGowan wrote: Hi Andrea, I'm assuming that these are services you're suggesting we review? If so, firstly, thanks for bringing more services into the fold here. And secondly, you're welcome to contribute as well

[tosdr:3211] Re: [good] Third parties used by Tumblr are bound by confidentiality obligations

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
Giving 'Third parties are bound by confidentiality obligations' a [good] score of +20 in the 'third' topic. We should be aware that we should rate every service on this topic; it may be other services would really deserve those points too, but don't get them because they took this for granted

[tosdr:3212] Re: [bad] Skype may prohibit users from posting links to the Skype website

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
Yeah, they should have written only damages our reputation in reasonable ways :) Assigning bad:40 in the governance topic. On Friday, August 8, 2014 3:08:26 AM UTC+2, mike.ca...@gmail.com wrote: From http://www.skype.com/en/legal/tou/ 5.13 Linking You may link to the Skype Website from

[tosdr:3213] Re: The website to check

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi Doge, Sorry for the late reply, we have all been very busy with other things. :) Do you want to have a go at this yourself? What strikes you as good/bad when you read their policy? See also https://tosdr.org/get-involved.html for more instructions on how to get started reviewing services.

[tosdr:3214] Re: Flattr allows third-party cookies

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
Adjusted down to a -10 score, in line with https://github.com/tosdr/tosdr.org/blob/master/scripts/cases.js#L21 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:39:57 PM UTC+2, Ian McGowan wrote: Some of our business partners, like any advertisers, may use cookies on the Flattr Site. We have no access to, or

Re: [tosdr:3215] How to deal with incomplete ToS?

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:33:08 AM UTC+2, Hugo Roy wrote: Le lun. 20/05/13, 16:03, Eric Jain eric.j...@gmail.com: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Hugo Roy h...@tosdr.org wrote: If there isn't anything on business transfers in the ToS, I suppose there's nothing to do. Or do you

[tosdr:3216] Re: [note] Tumblr keeps token; doesn't store passwords to Third Party Services

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
This is standard practice, let's not make a data point out of this. On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:15:13 AM UTC+2, Ian McGowan wrote: You may also be required to engage in an authorization process with each of those Third Party Services, where we receive a token that allows us to access those

[tosdr:3217] Re: You grant Tumblr a limited copyright license

2014-09-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
Curated this as https://github.com/tosdr/tosdr.org/blob/5c2a4690f43d47eaed02b2fac18bbaf4a246a2d6/scripts/cases.js#L25 On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:19:21 PM UTC+2, Ian McGowan wrote: Actually, this may not be so limited: Note also that this license to your Subscriber Content continues even if

Re: [tosdr:3256] ToSBack: Policy Changes

2014-10-01 Thread Michiel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Note the new diff formate in the github link! :) You can also add ?diff=split to the end of older github links, to make them more easily readable. On 01.10.2014 05:27, ToSBack wrote: att.com: Wireless Plan Terms live.com: Privacy Policy

[tosdr:3304] Fwd: Research on privacy of digital photos

2014-10-31 Thread Michiel de Jong
FYI (via fedsocweb mailing list) -- Forwarded message -- From: Malik Aqdas aqdas.ma...@aalto.fi Date: Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM Subject: Research on privacy of digital photos To: public-fedsoc...@w3.org public-fedsoc...@w3.org Hello, An academic research on the privacy of

Re: [tosdr:3324] Re: [Bad] Facebook automatically shares your information

2014-11-14 Thread Michiel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Hedge, thanks for the reviewing! So this is about the new Facebook terms which are currently in proposal status, right? I just read http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/13/facebook-turns-its-data-policy-into-something-a-human-can-actually-read/ about

[tosdr:3328] Let's collaborate with PrivacyGrade?

2014-11-18 Thread Michiel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Apart from http://www.toschecker.com/toschecker/ which was mentioned in the chat today, PrivacyGrade looks like a very related project, by Carnegie Mellon, and looks very interesting: http://privacygrade.org/home -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [tosdr:3434] Re: Github can suspend your service and delete your data any time for any reason

2015-03-30 Thread Michiel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, I know of one, although it was only temporary, and followed up by an apology: http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/GitHub-security-incident-highlights-Ruby-on-Rails-problem-1463207.html On 30.03.2015 14:26, xyh...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [tosdr:3524] Re: Twitter [bad] Right to access

2015-06-25 Thread Michiel de Jong
Focusing on the 'Retrieve your archive' button rather than on the fax-sending procedure, I curated this as follows: https://github.com/tosdr/tosdr-build/blob/master/src/points/0Q-ZHqdSZ3g.json On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 11:10:01 PM UTC+2, Hugo Roy wrote: ↪ 2014-09-10 Wed 19:50, Anna

Re: [tosdr:3506] Fwd: You are supposed to own all your information on Facebook

2015-06-11 Thread Michiel de Jong
We have a similar point for tumblr. I made them both good, 10 since I think it's what we would normally expect. If you look at other points in the ownership topic, you see that this is a topic where services can mostly lose points if they claim ownership of something that's yours, not win many

Re: [tosdr:3508] Re: Facebook uses your data for many purposes

2015-06-11 Thread Michiel de Jong
I gave this bad, 40 as suggested by Suzanne. The text on https://www.facebook.com/full_data_use_policy now links to https://research.facebook.com/ where they detail more about what type of research they do. On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 1:36:38 PM UTC+2, Hugo Roy wrote: ↪ 2014-07-01 Tue

[tosdr:3505] Re: Facebook uses cookies

2015-06-11 Thread Michiel de Jong
I made it neutral, 10, in line with how we rated this for twitter, github, grammarly, etc. On Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 11:53:15 AM UTC+2, Suzanne Azmayesh wrote: Title : Facebook uses cookies Topic : cookies Summary : Facebook uses, pixels and local storage in order to gather information

Re: [tosdr:3507] Fwd: Facebook stores your data

2015-06-11 Thread Michiel de Jong
I agree with Hugo that it is obvious that they have to host your data in order to provide any service at all. About the 'and others', Facebook is used to share content with others, so it's obvious that they need to keep what you shared to provide the service to the recipients of what you

[tosdr:3538] Re: [bad] delicious new terms 5. third party services get access to personal information

2015-07-03 Thread Michiel de Jong
Found it, it was point 1WKEDu7pH70 about Tumblr. Rating this one the same way as that one, namely 'good, 20'. On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 at 7:49:43 PM UTC+2, Michiel de Jong wrote: i have also seen this one elsewhere (don't remember where, sorry) On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Hugo Roy h

[tosdr:3542] Re: Differences between the services/*.json files and the tosback2/rules/*.xml files

2015-07-03 Thread Michiel de Jong
Some of these difference turned out to be typos, errors, or links that had changed - I fixed all those in https://github.com/tosdr/tosdr-build/commit/cb7e91e7a8f2729d7ee20b788a1049eb30d1f536 The rest was due to scope of detail - for instance, we link to the main Amazon ToS, but to keep the list

[tosdr:3541] Re: MyKolab provides an opt-out for their Piwik web analytics

2015-07-03 Thread Michiel de Jong
Dismissed as duplicate of https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tosdr/0-UT7XiN4tg/discussion On Monday, September 9, 2013 at 5:41:22 PM UTC+2, Ian McGowan wrote: We use Piwik http://piwik.org/ to analyze access to this website only. All data is stored on our servers. The IP addresses are

[tosdr:3531] Re: Microsoft.com [bad] No promise to inform of government requests

2015-06-29 Thread Michiel de Jong
On Friday, May 10, 2013 at 7:39:05 PM UTC+2, Robin Monks wrote: This is already a point, please ignore: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tosdr/O1jol2PECRM/hKTMzj1GxpYJ /Robin The data point from that other discussion (O1jol2PECRM) was dismissed though, so publishing this one as data

[tosdr:3893] [bad] AirBnb binding arbitration

2016-05-22 Thread Michiel de Jong
See http://boingboing.net/2016/05/20/airbnb-stealth-updates-terms-o.html for a discussion. Cheers, Michiel. -- [!!] Please see https://edit.tosdr.org -- this is where new contributions should be submitted and discussed tosdr.org | twitter.com/tosdr | github.com/tosdr --- You received this

Re: [tosdr:4055] TOS whatsapp.com/whatsapp app change TOS at any time

2017-01-26 Thread Michiel de Jong
ble formulation, but it's definitely better than saying nothing about giving notice. I created a new case about this in the 'change-notice' topic: { name: 'user is notified as appropriate', point: 'good', score: 30 } On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:30:40 AM UTC+1, Michiel de Jong wrot

[tosdr:3973] Re: Suspension and censorship on youtube

2016-09-27 Thread Michiel de Jong
On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 2:44:56 AM UTC+7, djpen...@gmail.com wrote: > > I don't think this is negative. They are just rules. Fair point! But I think it depends on how you describe the service youtube offers - is it a tool for publishing content (in which case it's indeed quite common

[tosdr:4026] Re: DeASs TOS

2016-12-10 Thread Michiel de Jong
Looks like this service no longer exists. On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 at 1:18:24 PM UTC+7, JOduMonT wrote: > > http://fr.deass.org/termes-et-conditions > > Any information you disclose to ÐeASs remains confidential. Your name, email > address and other identifying information will never be

[tosdr:4027] Re: SumoMe | Privacy Policy

2016-12-10 Thread Michiel de Jong
Looks like the URL changed to https://help.sumome.com/hc/en-us/articles/218958727-Privacy-Policy On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 10:56:15 PM UTC+7, Douglas M. Gross wrote: > > Oh goodness, > > "We WILL NEVER sell your information to anyone" - don't be concerned about > renting their lists, sharing

[tosdr:4026] Re:

2016-12-09 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi Mickey, Thanks for submitting this! However, for now we only review terms of service of (online) services, not license agreements for non-free software products which you install on your own computer. Cheers, Michiel. On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 5:46:17 PM UTC+8, Mickey wrote: > >

[tosdr:4024] Re: Sunrise Calendar TOS

2016-12-09 Thread Michiel de Jong
This service doesn't exist anymore: http://blog.sunrise.am/ On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 4:03:06 AM UTC+8, David Hansen wrote: > > http://www.sunrise.am/about/terms/ > > -D > > -- [!!] Please see https://edit.tosdr.org -- this is where new contributions should be submitted and discussed

[tosdr:4043] Re: LastPass.com Idemnification

2017-01-13 Thread Michiel de Jong
Duplicate of https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tosdr/ew1KoRBndlk On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 at 8:50:07 PM UTC+1, Robin Monks wrote: > > You agree to indemnify and hold harmless LastPass, its contractors, and >> its licensors, and their respective directors, officers, employees and >>

[tosdr:4042] Re: Lastpass [bad] No Liability / Disclaims all Warrenties

2017-01-13 Thread Michiel de Jong
Will restrict this point to the disclaimer of warranties, since the limitation of liability is already mentioned in https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tosdr/-CpUNz09iBo/discussion. On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 at 11:55:41 AM UTC+2, Steven Roddis wrote: > >

Re: [tosdr:4034] Love it

2016-12-30 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi Justin, Thanks for your interest! We usually say "Please submit review points through edit.tosdr.org" but we now have so many points submitted and not displayed on the site yet that this is not really good advice anymore, especially as it will probably lead to you submitting duplicate points

[tosdr:4030] Re: a website to add to the addon terms of service didn’t read

2016-12-20 Thread Michiel de Jong
Looks like this website no longer exists. On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 12:42:45 PM UTC+2, Tom Lukeywood wrote: > > i was wondering if you could add this site? as the privacy policy is: > http://loxleyvalleyprotectionsociety.co.uk/ > Privacy Policy > This website collects no information about

Re: [tosdr:4030] Let's collaborate with PrivacyGrade?

2016-12-20 Thread Michiel de Jong
/35 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 at 5:01:30 PM UTC+1, Hugo Roy wrote: > > ↪ 2014-11-18 Tue 16:44, Michiel de Jong <anyt@michielbdejong.com>: > > Apart from http://www.toschecker.com/toschecker/ which was mentioned > > in the chat today, PrivacyGrade looks lik

[tosdr:4032] Re: unity terms conditions

2016-12-20 Thread Michiel de Jong
This looks like a user's license to use a piece of software, not the terms of an offered service. What is the url of this document? -- [!!] Please see https://edit.tosdr.org -- this is where new contributions should be submitted and discussed tosdr.org | twitter.com/tosdr | github.com/tosdr

[tosdr:4033] Re: Add this terms please

2016-12-20 Thread Michiel de Jong
(ES) Perdona, no encuentro la version en Ingles de estos documentos, parece que solo estan en EspaNol? (EN) Sorry, I can't find an English version of these documents, they seem to only be available in Spanish. On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 4:34:19 AM UTC+2, manuel wrote: > >

[tosdr:4033] Re: accounts.firefox.com

2016-12-20 Thread Michiel de Jong
Thanks for submitting this! One side note: the second url seems incorrect - the terms for Firefox Hello are different from the ones for Firefox Accounts, see https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/ -- [!!] Please see https://edit.tosdr.org -- this is where new contributions should be

[tosdr:4031] Re: From Best Buy

2016-12-20 Thread Michiel de Jong
This url now says: "As of Feb 26, 2016, the Private Store & Auction is closed." > -- [!!] Please see https://edit.tosdr.org -- this is where new contributions should be submitted and discussed tosdr.org | twitter.com/tosdr | github.com/tosdr --- You received this message because you are

[tosdr:4031] Re: The whole thing

2016-12-20 Thread Michiel de Jong
I don't think this service is being maintained anymore, their https certificate is only valid for migrate.casting247.net, not for casting247.net itself. On Thursday, April 23, 2015 at 4:14:18 AM UTC+2, Jason Kusiimo wrote: > > http://casting247.net/terms-and-conditions/ > -- [!!] Please see

[tosdr:4030] Reviewing our reviews

2016-12-23 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi! I worked a bit on the backend code of edit.tosdr.org and tosdr.org, imported the last review points that were still submitted to this mailing list, and cleaned up the database a bit. We now have the following statistics for review points that are already on the website ("done") and ones that

Re: [tosdr:4235] Re: Can we talk about standardizing scores?

2017-08-15 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi Chris, On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > Hi ! > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 6:27:14 PM UTC+2, Michael Stemle wrote: >> >> I know that this is my first message to the group, but I've been watching >> for a while and I would like to jump in and help. >> >> >

Re: [tosdr:4231] Can we talk about standardizing scores?

2017-08-13 Thread Michiel de Jong
ritto: > > That is fantastic! I started thinking about some stuff last night, and > this seems like it's already very detailed. I'll review it later when I > have time to dig in. It'd be cool if we had something that could tie a > score to a specific clause in a document, too. > >

Re: [tosdr:4224] Can we talk about standardizing scores?

2017-08-09 Thread Michiel de Jong
Awesome! I'm really excited to see this post appear on the list at this time. As you know we have this concept of a 'team' (see https://tosdr.org/about.html#contact), who are basically the list of people within our community (including myself) who have more or less committed to sometiimes

Re: [tosdr:4274] September Team Call

2017-09-14 Thread Michiel de Jong
works for me! Will we use the same VOIP thing as last time? Can you remind us what the URL was? On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Chris ToSDR wrote: > hey guys ! No answers so far, so let's decide it's Friday 22, 6pm (GMT+1) > > All good ? > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 2:35

Re: [tosdr:4284] September Team Call

2017-09-22 Thread Michiel de Jong
So the meeting is at 6pm London time (7pm Paris time) tonight, right? Let's use https://framatalk.org/tosdr, with #tosdr on http://webchat.freenode.net/ as the irc channel? See you there tonight! :) PS: Chris, as the poll admin, can you mark that time slot as the winner in

Re: [tosdr:4325] September Team Call

2017-10-20 Thread Michiel de Jong
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Jimm Stout wrote: > Oh no! Sorry, I missed it too! Has there been any discussion about the > October call? > Not yet, I think. Chris, shall we just set it to each 4th Friday of the month? > So far, I'm just working on making the JSON

Re: [tosdr:4377] New platform to contribute: Phoenix!

2017-11-26 Thread Michiel de Jong
Awesome, congrats on the fast results there! I'll see if I can help with the database import and contribute to the alpha testing. Are all three of you in Brussels, by the way? Cheers, Michiel. On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:47 PM, wrote: > Hello everyone ! > > As promised,

[tosdr:4463] Heads-up: Accepting donations through nlnet?

2018-02-05 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi all, In 2011 we accepted donations through IndieGoGo, GrunderGarage, and Flattr. The 20,000 euros raised in that first crowdfunding round is now almost used up, and we want to raise more funding to continue working on Terms of Service; Didn't Read. We have been talking to NLNet about

Re: [tosdr:4705] my hop card to the list

2018-08-15 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi Cawsking555, You can add this service to https://edit.tosdr.org, our new reviewing tool. Let me know if you run into any trouble, or have any other feedback about the tool! Cheers, Michiel. On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:10 PM, cawsking555 wrote: > https://myhopcard.com/home/#/terms > > my hop

Re: [tosdr:4718] Amazon will not allow customers who object to Cookies to buy!

2018-08-27 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi Colin, Great point, can you add this on https://edit.tosdr.org? Thanks! Michiel. On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Colin P D Yarwood wrote: > -- > [!!] Please see https://edit.tosdr.org -- this is where new contributions > should be submitted and discussed > > tosdr.org | twitter.com/tosdr