Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2010-06-12 Thread Phil Meyer
Radio meets EC1275, as does Controller. Touch appears to with its default settings (showing the clock screen when off; with screen dark when off it does not). None of the IP3K players meet the new EU standards. I thought I had read that Touch was consuming too much, but that more could be done

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2010-06-11 Thread m1abrams
JohnSwenson;554180 Wrote: So you are saying the screen off screensaver takes more power than the digital clock screensaver? Now THAT is interesting. The only way I could come up with that might cause that is screen off turns off the backlight but leaves the now playing screen active, and if

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2010-06-11 Thread peterw
JohnSwenson;554180 Wrote: So you are saying the screen off screensaver takes more power than the digital clock screensaver? Nope. Touch when in standby consumes about 2W ** regardless of the display setting, which is allowed of devices that have info displays, but not of devices with no info

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2010-06-11 Thread JohnSwenson
peterw;554191 Wrote: Nope. Touch when in standby consumes about 2W ** regardless of the display setting, which is allowed of devices that have info displays, but not of devices with no info display. It almost certainly consumes a little less power with screen dark, but the EU directive in

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2010-06-10 Thread marchse
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2010-06-10 Thread Phil Meyer
Really so when you turn your TV off or other hifi device off then you can NOT turn them back on with a remote right? Yes, if I press the Off button on the physical box, then no remote would ever turn them back on. If I press the standby button to put devices into standby, then a remote can

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2010-06-10 Thread peterw
Philip Meyer;554015 Wrote: In July 2008, the European Commission accepted a proposal to reduce standby power consumption to either 1 W (if there is a reactivation function) or 2 W (if there is an information or status display) by 2010... Squeezebox devices don't achieve any of these

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-19 Thread sebp
toby10;496645 Wrote: AMEN! We should have been building small nukes all along, like France. What are they up to now, like 70% nuke power? They did it (and continue to do it) right in regards to power generation. Clearly off topic, but well, we currently have 3 or 4 nuclear power plants

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-19 Thread peterw
bpa;496702 Wrote: I should have measured before writing that - I had assumed like boom there was a large cap. I think there is a large capacitor in Radio to keep the clock running during power outages wake it before the next alarm, but I think that's all the supercap provides. -- peterw

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-19 Thread sxr71
Philip Meyer;496339 Wrote: You shut it down by pulling the plug, its designed for that. I'm not so sure about that. The power cable is right next to the USB socket, which is kind of awkward at best. I find inserting/extracting a USB stick quite awkward (especially as I tend to do

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread mecouc
Thank you, all. The lack of a power switch seems a design fault in all the Squeezeboxes (though I suppose it also removes a point of failure). One reason I don't use my current SB3 very often is that the power lead has usually fallen down the back of the furniture it lives on because pulling it

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread aubuti
mecouc;496445 Wrote: One reason I don't use my current SB3 very often is that the power lead has usually fallen down the back of the furniture it lives on because pulling it out is the only way to turn it off - the other is that it requires my PC to be left on all day. As for your current

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread DaveWr
aubuti;496485 Wrote: Do you also unplug your microwave, tv, router, and other appliances when not in use? In the UK man people have been investing in 'standby savers', remote switches that disconnect mains from multiple devices. Energy Star devices have to achieve standby figures of 1W or

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread thomasfoerster
Actually that's what I do.. Almost all appliances are off when I'm not at home. Well, the fridge has to stay on, and that's a biggy. But imho this stand-by-humbug wastes much too much energy world-wide. Those multi-outlet power thingies I have to use now are so ugly! Power switches should be

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread aubuti
thomasfoerster;496512 Wrote: Power switches should be mandatory, that's what I think. And not just any power switch, but a switch that actually cuts the power, like your power strip does. The power switch on most devices with remote controls only puts them into standby, so adding that kind of

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread iPhone
thomasfoerster;496512 Wrote: Actually that's what I do.. Almost all appliances are off when I'm not at home. Well, the fridge has to stay on, and that's a biggy. But imho this stand-by-humbug wastes much too much energy world-wide. Those multi-outlet power thingies I have to use now are

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread toby10
iPhone;496575 Wrote: The amount of energy a Squeezebox in Standby uses is insignificant. Also what good is a wireless LAN device that has to be turned on by a power switch to use it when it has remotes, wireless controllers, and can be used from a WebUI. Kind of defeats the purpose of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread thomasfoerster
As much as I dislike your global warming myth, I really appreciate the light switch idea... And, even if it was a myth - that doesn't mean I should have more than my necessary share in resource exploitation. What's your point in turning down the idea of a power switch for those who think it came

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread DaveWr
Without trying to seem Continentist?, our American colleagues have cheap energy. Only recently has considerations of energy saving become an issue. Forget Global Warming the US is no longer self sufficient in energy, so you will have to change as the global economic energy situation starts to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread toby10
DaveWr;496631 Wrote: Without trying to seem Continentist?, our American colleagues have cheap energy. Only recently has considerations of energy saving become an issue. Forget Global Warming the US is no longer self sufficient in energy, so you will have to change as the global economic

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread Phil Meyer
The amount of energy a Squeezebox in Standby uses is insignificant. It's not insignificant. But I wasn't thinking from a wastage of energy point of view. Sometimes I just don't need or even want the device on. eg. if I am going away for a week, I don't want my device to be triggered from an

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread bpa
Why is there such a resistance to a simple on/off rocker on the back of the Squeezebox units? Everything else in the world has one. Radio has an on/off button which can do true power off - Touch could have had one - perhaps there were design/cost issues. -- bpa

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread peterw
bpa;496661 Wrote: Radio has an on/off button which can do true power off - Touch could have had one - perhaps there were design/cost issues. It doesn't do true power off, but it does come close. When really off but still plugged in, my pre-production Radio (without a battery) uses about one

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-17 Thread Phil Meyer
It doesn't do true power off, but it does come close. When really off but still plugged in, my pre-production Radio (without a battery) uses about one third of a watt. Yeah, I was really talking about Touch - Radio is better as at least it has a very-close-to-off mode. In this mode, I assume

[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-16 Thread mecouc
I'm thinking of getting a Touch as I like the idea of not having to keep my PC on all the time (I'm considering a Sheevaplug + SB3 from Ebay as another option). If the Touch runs linux, then presumably you have to wait for it to boot up when you turn it on. How long does this take? I don't want

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-16 Thread JohnSwenson
If I remember correctly its something like 20 seconds to boot up, not instantaneous but not 3 minutes either. The power draw is very similar to the SB3, about 5 watts that can go up to 7 or so when working hard. It comes with a supply that can provide considerably more than this because it also

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-16 Thread Phil Meyer
You shut it down by pulling the plug, its designed for that. I'm not so sure about that. The power cable is right next to the USB socket, which is kind of awkward at best. I find inserting/extracting a USB stick quite awkward (especially as I tend to do unintended actions on the touch screen

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch start up time?

2009-12-16 Thread JJZolx
37 seconds to boot without a USB drive or SD card. Probably longer if it has to start up the internal server. No, it's not designed to have the power unplugged and plugged in. That's what power switches are for. -- JJZolx Jim