Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How do i know the digital output bit-rate from Touch?

2020-10-19 Thread hankhsucc


Thank you so much !  It is clear now. :)

bpa wrote: 
> I think you are mixing up "sample rate" and "bit rate"
> 
> Sample rate is the number of audio sample per sec to make up audio
> stream e.g. CD 44,100  16 bit samples 
> 
> The audio stream of a specific sample rate can then be compressed (lossy
> or lossless) into data stream of bits which has a data rate or bit rate
> (i.e. kbits/sec).  The slower the data rate the greater the
> compression.
> 
> Bit rate was important was using live stream such with digital radio DAB
> or TV DVB as player had no buffers - bandwidth of transmission medium
> (e.g. satellite, terrestrial) restricted data rate of compressed audio
> stream of typically 44.1Khz / 48kHz 16 bit.
> 
> Touch is a buffered played so data is sent in bursts so bit rate is not
> sdignificant.
> Touch will decode the data streams and output the audio sample rate of
> the data streams - realtime audio sample rate of 44.1Khz 16 bit will be
> sent from digital output regards of whether the data source is 
> PCM - 1411k
> Flac - about 700kb (can vary according to compression level ) 
> MP3 - typically from 32kbs up to 320kbs
> 
> CBR will have a maximum data rate,  VBR will be varying but an average
> data rate as speced - again the realtime audio sample rate after
> decompressing will be same as source 44.1Khz 16bit



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How do i know the digital output bit-rate from Touch?

2020-10-19 Thread bpa


hankhsucc wrote: 
> Thank you for the info.
> 
> But I am not asking the max sample rate supported by Touch.
> 
> I want to know the real-time sample rate from Touch. 

I think you are mixing up "sample rate" and "bit rate"

Sample rate is the number of audio sample per sec to make up audio
stream e.g. CD 44,100  16 bit samples 

The audio stream of a specific sample rate can then be compressed (lossy
or lossless) into data stream of bits which has a data rate or bit rate
(i.e. kbits/sec).  The slower the data rate the greater the
compression.

Bit rate was important was using live stream such with digital radio DAB
or TV DVB as player had no buffers - bandwidth of transmission medium
(e.g. satellite, terrestrial) restricted data rate of compressed audio
stream of typically 44.1Khz / 48kHz 16 bit.

Touch is a buffered played so data is sent in bursts so bit rate is not
sdignificant.
Touch will decode the data streams and output the audio sample rate of
the data streams - realtime audio sample rate of 44.1Khz 16 bit will be
sent from digital output regards of whether the data source is 
PCM - 1411k
Flac - about 700kb (can vary according to compression level ) 
MP3 - typically from 32kbs up to 320kbs

CBR will have a maximum data rate,  VBR will be varying but an average
data rate as speced - again the realtime audio sample rate after
decompressing will be same as source 44.1Khz 16bit



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How do i know the digital output bit-rate from Touch?

2020-10-19 Thread Man in a van


https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105484-Confirmation-of-bitrate
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How do i know the digital output bit-rate from Touch?

2020-10-19 Thread slartibartfast


hankhsucc wrote: 
> OK. Thanks ! I can see the bit-rate on WebUI now.
> But all my music files are Redbook CD ripped by "Exact Audio Copy" in
> lossless FLAC compressed mode.
> It is supposed the bit-rate be 1411k CBR, but what the WebUI shows is
> various bit-rate (VBR) under 1411k.
> 
> For example, 640K VBR, 712K VBR, ...
> 
> Why ? Thank you !

FLAC files have a lower bitrate than wave but are lossless.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How do i know the digital output bit-rate from Touch?

2020-10-18 Thread hankhsucc


slartibartfast wrote: 
> You can see it in the webUI now playing screen.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk


OK. Thanks ! I can see the bit-rate on WebUI now.
But all my music files are Redbook CD ripped by "Exact Audio Copy" in
lossless FLAC compressed mode.
It is supposed the bit-rate be 1411k CBR, but what the WebUI shows is
various bit-rate (VBR) under 1411k.

For example, 640K VBR, 712K VBR, ...

Why ? Thank you !



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How do i know the digital output bit-rate from Touch?

2020-10-18 Thread slartibartfast


hankhsucc wrote: 
> Thank you for the info.
> 
> But I am not asking the max sample rate supported by Touch.
> 
> I want to know the real-time sample rate from Touch. :rolleyes:
You can see it in the webUI now playing screen.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How do i know the digital output bit-rate from Touch?

2020-10-18 Thread hankhsucc


Stratmangler wrote: 
> The Touch handles the usual sample rates up to 96kHz natively.
> Beyond that, you need to install the EDO applet, and it will go up to
> 192kHz.

Thank you for the info.

But I am not asking the max sample rate supported by Touch.

I want to know the real-time sample rate from Touch. :rolleyes:



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How do i know the digital output bit-rate from Touch?

2020-10-18 Thread Stratmangler


The Touch handles the usual sample rates up to 96kHz natively.



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[SlimDevices: Touch] How do i know the digital output bit-rate from Touch?

2020-10-18 Thread hankhsucc


Since my dac doesn't come with display of input bit-rate, can I have the
digital output bit-rate from Touch ?
Thank you !



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