Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-06-01 Thread Trojka


The lowest rsync delay value works (50ms). I played keyboard parts with
that kinda latency in the 2000, wouldn't call it 'ages'. A lower value
would work too, I guess but that wasn't an option. When switching to
another track in a different bitrate you're doing something odd anyway,
so waiting a few ms is no problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-06-01 Thread drmatt


This is not uncommon, some DACs take an age to sync (my supernait DAC
was one of them). My marantz a/v amp on the other hand will switch and
lock between 16/44 and full blown dts-hd master streams before you've
noticed it's done so..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-31 Thread Trojka


In fact it works brilliantly. :D



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-31 Thread Trojka


Installed a trial for Roon (wanted to try it anyway), and it offered a
resync delay. Problem solved. So far it Roon looks very good.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-31 Thread Trojka


That's an exceptional thing to do for a support service, but for RME
even more. And no, this is a slightly different issue. The other one
could be reproduced by burning the flac to CD, play it on a BluRay
player via HDMI. It had something to do with a pregap imprinted into the
wav or flac (in hex view, right after the data block you'd see actual
zero's, which were translated as digital silence. The RME has no problem
with this and keeps its connection synced, the other one stopped for a
moment).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-31 Thread Man in a van


@Trojka


'Have you looked over here?'
(https://www.forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=27008)


'and is this the same or similar problem you are talking about here?'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94512-Announce-Enhanced-Digital-Output-app-USB-Dac-and-192k-Digital-Ouput=940255=1#post940255)



If I remember correctly, a forum user sent his SBT to RME and they
performed some software magic so that it would work :cool:

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-30 Thread bpa


Trojka wrote: 
> Indeed, it isn't at all. I'm sure it can be fixed in the LMS software
> though. I have about 5 DAC's in the house and they all respond the same.
> Is there some place on this forum for feature requests or issues?
I don't think it can be fixed in LMS as this depends on the PCM stream
sent to a DAC - this seems to be a player / decoder issue.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-30 Thread garym


Trojka wrote: 
> Indeed, it isn't at all. I'm sure it can be fixed in the LMS software
> though. I have about 5 DAC's in the house and they all respond the same.
> Is there some place on this forum for feature requests or issues?

I'm hoping someone might have an idea about a setting on this and chime
in.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-30 Thread Trojka


Indeed, it isn't at all. I'm sure it can be fixed in the LMS software
though. I have about 5 DAC's in the house and they all respond the same.
Is there some place on this forum for feature requests or issues?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-30 Thread garym


Trojka wrote: 
> Tested it, and indeed, it's the DAC responding to the new bitrate. On
> the analog output it plays well.

That was my suspicion, but it's always good to confirm with a test, as
you've done.  As you said, if you otherwise like the DAC, this is not a
major deal killer.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-30 Thread Trojka


Tested it, and indeed, it's the DAC responding to the new bitrate. On
the analog output it plays well.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-29 Thread garym


Trojka wrote: 
> Sorry, I didn't try that. I only tried the digital outputs without EDO.
> I really love my RME ADI2, so using the analog outputs of the Squeezebox
> would be a big step back. Maybe it's good to test (and maybe I'll do
> that tomorrow), but like I said...luxury problem. :) If I pay attention
> (or just don't mind the little gap sometimes), there's no real problem.
> There are so many things that can be configured in LMS and the
> Squeezebox, that I hoped there was some setting somewhere.
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions!

Yes, not suggesting this as a permanent solution.  More of just a test
of whether it is the DAC/Touch interaction, or happens with only the
TOUCH.   There may be a setting as you suggest, but I'm not aware of it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-29 Thread Trojka


garym wrote: 
> To be clear, you still get the problem with no DAC connected (just
> analog out (RCA cables) from one of the Touch players to your stereo)?

Sorry, I didn't try that. I only tried the digital outputs without EDO.
I really love my RME ADI2, so using the analog outputs of the Squeezebox
would be a big step back. Maybe it's good to test (and maybe I'll do
that tomorrow), but like I said...luxury problem. :) If I pay attention
(or just don't mind the little gap sometimes), there's no real problem.
There are so many things that can be configured in LMS and the
Squeezebox, that I hoped there was some setting somewhere.

Thanks for your suggestions!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-29 Thread garym


To be clear, you still get the problem with no DAC connected (just
analog out (RCA cables) from one of the Touch players to your stereo)?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-29 Thread Trojka


Tried it, doesn't make a difference.

But I understand that the 'startup time for audio' parameter in LMS for
this Squeezebox doesn't affect this?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-29 Thread Trojka


Well, maybe that's a good thing to try. I don't use USB anymore (only
SPDIF and Toslink) and don't have 192 hires in my collection. So maybe
using it without EDO applet is better.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-29 Thread Trojka


No, they're not synced. Crossfade turned off for both devices, max
volume.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track

2019-05-29 Thread garym


Are your two touch players synced when this happens? If so, what happens
if you unsync then try this.



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