[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

@tomoe_musashi: Can you please file a new bug about Noto Serif CJK instead of using this one which was closed long ago. There is some related packaging discussion at Debian: https://bugs.debian.org/862276 http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-fonts- devel/2017-May/thread.html#19499 I

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Sorry to bother you again but there is a new update for the Noto CJK fonts. Google and Adobe released the Serif fonts for CJK about several weeks ago Noto Serif CJK: http://www.google.com/get/noto/help/cjk/ It is a better serif font in consistency and glyph standard. Ubuntu should seed the new

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-05-08 11:23, Yuan Chao wrote: > On 2016-05-04, Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) wrote: >> Yeah, indeed. And it indicates that the bug resides in the "super" >> OTC file. > > I thought the problem is on google-chrome as Firefox and other > applications handles super OTC well? What we found

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-05-04, Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) wrote: > Yeah, indeed. And it indicates that the bug resides in the "super" OTC file. I thought the problem is on google-chrome as Firefox and other applications handles super OTC well? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Thanks again, tomoe_musashi and Cheng-Chia Tseng! On 2016-05-03 18:49, tomoe_musashi wrote: > It's great that the package install all 7 weights with similar > required disk space as the Super OTC one. Yeah, indeed. And it indicates that the bug resides in the "super" OTC file. -- You received

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

This is what it looks like in virtualbox. It seems no problem with chrome when using the latest package as well. ** Attachment added: "chrome-ckj-gunnar-version-otc.png"

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

I just tested the latest PPA and it fix the "Thin issue" in Chrome/Chromium, in a clean live mode of a virtual machine. It's great that the package install all 7 weights with similar required disk space as the Super OTC one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Sorry to bother you again, but... I tested to replace the single "super" OTC file with 7 weight specific OTC files, and it seems like this is sufficient to fix "the Thin issue" in Chrome/Chromium. So I have uploaded a simpler proposal to the PPA, without the additional fonts-noto-cjk-extras

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Thanks, tomoe_musashi and Cheng-Chia Tseng. It confirms the conclusion from my rudimentary tests, and strengthens my belief that the proposed solution is a reasonable step to take. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

This is the screenshot within virtualbox, with extras. They appeared to be the same, and the weight of the CJK characters is not the thin ones. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu.

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Attachment added: "chrome-ckj-gunnar-version-with-extras.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1468027/+attachment/4652959/+files/chrome-ckj-gunnar-version-with-extras.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Here is the screenshot within virtualbox, without extras. ** Attachment added: "chrome-cjk-gunnar-version-without-extras.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1468027/+attachment/4652945/+files/chrome-cjk-gunnar-version-without-extras.png -- You received this

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

@Gunnar, i tried both without and with fonts-noto-cjk-extras installed, and the patch addresses the chromium issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu.

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Thanks, tomoe_musashi. Did you try both without and with fonts-noto-cjk- extras? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

@Gunnar, i can confirm that the PPA package addresses the Google Chrome issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK fonts

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-04-30 06:40, Cheng-Chia Tseng wrote: > Using subset OTFs is suggested for OS exept MacOS and Windows by the > README file from Source Han Sans (same as Noto Sans CJK). According to the README.formats file, which is included in the fonts- noto-cjk source package, OTC "works" on recent

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Using subset OTFs is suggested for OS exept MacOS and Windows by the README file from Source Han Sans (same as Noto Sans CJK). However, as I stated previously, I believe using Super OTC is a way to find where the apps in Linux world which has some problems dealing with this "super font," and that

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

We have a solution to the Chrome/Chromium and "Thin" issue in sight at bug #157. A modified version of fonts-noto-cjk is available in this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/fonts-noto-cjk It would be great if a few Chinese and Japanese users could install fonts-noto-cjk

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released ** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds Status: New => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu.

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-04-07 21:24, Mingye Wang wrote: > In addition to the weight matching problem, the screenshot for > Chromium in #113 gives the JP variant instead of TW. I didn't even notice "JP" first. This made me fear that /etc/fonts/conf.avail/64-language-selector-prefer.conf has something to do with

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Not sure. Some fontconfig tracing env vars might be useful for the Skia LegacyCreateTypeface part I guess... * * * In addition to the weight matching problem, the screenshot for Chromium in #113 gives the JP variant instead of TW. Perhaps I should try to get someone to reproduce this in other

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Thanks, Shih-Yuan. Thin? Why Thin? Same for me with Google Chrome. Don't Chrome and Chromium care about fontconfig, but do it their own way? Any ideas how this issue could be addressed? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

I tried this on Firefox and it seems to work fine. ** Attachment added: "zh_TW" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1468027/+attachment/4627261/+files/firefox.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages,

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

But, when I tried it on Chromium, it still doesn't work. ** Attachment added: "zh_TW" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1468027/+attachment/4627269/+files/chromium.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

This bug was fixed in the package xubuntu-meta - 2.205 --- xubuntu-meta (2.205) xenial; urgency=medium * Refreshed dependencies * Added fonts-noto-cjk to desktop-recommends (LP: #1468027) -- Sean Davis Wed, 06 Apr 2016 21:59:33 -0400 ** Changed in:

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Changed in: xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Since fontconfig 2.11.94 is on its way into the archive, I'd like to mention this "call for testing" message I posted to the ubuntu-devel mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-April/039303.html -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.164 --- language-selector (0.164) xenial; urgency=medium * fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-*.conf: * fontconfig/64-language-selector-prefer.conf: Dropped workaround to make "Regular" the default font weight for

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Update: fontconfig 2.11.1-0ubuntu9 is building, and will soon be in the Ubuntu archive. So if you haven't already, there is no reason now to bother with the PPA I mentioned in comment #107. Better test the real thing instead. :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Hi again, We met some hesitation in upgrading to fontconfig 2.11.94 this late in the cycle, so together with Mingye Wang I have also built 2.11.1 in a PPA, where the necessary upstream commits have been patched: https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/fontconfig-test So, as a base for

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Fixed in lubuntu-meta 0.64. ** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-04-03 06:02, tomoe_musashi wrote: > @Gunnar, i can confirm that the ppa fixes the "DemiLight" issue. it > also fixes some cases that rendering with undesirable font weights. Great, thanks! Then I'll try to get it in. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Attachment added: "fontconfig2.11.94" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1468027/+attachment/4621266/+files/Screenshot%20at%202016-04-03%2003%3A53%3A38.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

@Gunnar, i can confirm that the ppa fixes the "DemiLight" issue. it also fixes some cases that rendering with undesirable font weights. ** Attachment added: "current"

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #94505 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94505 ** Changed in: fontconfig Importance: Medium => Unknown ** Changed in: fontconfig Status: Fix Released => Unknown ** Changed in: fontconfig Remote watch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

As a test I built fontconfig 2.11.94 in a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/fontconfig-test2 I don't know yet if it would be possible to have it accepted for the 16.04 archive. What I know is that it would fix 'the Demilight issue' without the current workaround in the

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Thanks, Yuan Chao. Let me try so summarize then: There is an issue with fontconfig, so it by default picks "Demilight" over "Regular" (bug #1556457). We have tried to work around this problem in 69-language-selector-zh-??.conf and 64-language-selector-prefer.conf (the latter for e.g. an English

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Attachment added: "ja_JP.UTF-8" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1468027/+attachment/4616866/+files/Screenshot_xenial_firefox_jp.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Attachment added: "zh_TW.UTF-8" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1468027/+attachment/4616865/+files/Screenshot_xenial_firefox_tc.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Attachment added: "zh_CN.UTF-8" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1468027/+attachment/4616864/+files/Screenshot_xenial_firefox_sc.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

> May I ask: Is "Regular" picked up first with a ja_JP or zh_TW > locale? Yes, (only tested with live env) according to fc-match "Regular" is picked up over "DemiLight" in both zh_TW and zh_CN. TakaoPGothic is the default for ja_JP. However, for Firefox, this hack in

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-03-28 21:56, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > May I ask: Is "Regular" picked up first with a ja_JP or zh_TW > locale? Correction: with a zh_* locale. (With a ja_JP locale, TakaoPGothic is still the default.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Thanks for that report, Yuan Chao. It indicates that bug #1556457 is more urgent than we (I) first thought. May I ask: Is "Regular" picked up first with a ja_JP or zh_TW locale? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

>From the latest 16.04 beta2 release, I tested the font display with firefox. Still according to the inspection tool, Noto Sans DemiLight is picked up first for TC and JP contents. (EN locale in live env.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-03-26 04:43, 賴家亨 wrote: > I have installed noto sans cjk on Ubuntu 14.04.4, ... If you want to help with the default configuration for 16.04, it would be better if you tried 16.04 via a daily build ISO. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Why is the font still so thin in Firefox? I have installed noto sans cjk on Ubuntu 14.04.4, here is my setting. /etc/fonts/conf.d/69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf serif zh-tw

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

It seems that Medium is easier for reading, will be the font be Regular or Medium? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Bug watch removed: GNOME Bug Tracker #733764 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733764 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title:

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Yes, when the user language is e.g. English, the 69-language-selector-zh-*.conf files are not in effect. But if I understand it correctly, the default (if that's the correct way to say it) of Noto is not Chinese, but Japanese. At least Japanese is listed first in a fc-match listing, when no

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

If I understand correctly, when the user language is set to English, thus none of 69-language specific configurations are active, this configuration would take effect. Current configuration will make the ja variant take precedence over any of the Chinese ones, while the default of noto looks to be

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-03-22 18:20, Aron Xu wrote: > But this 64-language-selector-prefer.conf could lead to regression > for Chinese, unfortunately. Can you please be more specific? How? Do you see something which tomoe_musashi did not see? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

But this 64-language-selector-prefer.conf could lead to regression for Chinese, unfortunately. > On Mar 23, 2016, at 00:36, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <1468...@bugs.launchpad.net> > wrote: > > I'm getting back about Chinese and Japanese rendering with a non-CJKV > locale. We need to reach a conclusion

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

I'm getting back about Chinese and Japanese rendering with a non-CJKV locale. We need to reach a conclusion as regards the default configuration. Currently 64-language-selector-prefer.conf looks like this: sans-serif Noto Sans

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

@Gunnar, i don't know, seems like some other things are affecting the font fallback, which makes Firefox didn't work as expected(64-language-selector-prefer.conf). Currently if you type any kanji(or chinese words) on the firefox bar, or viewing some non-lang-specified contents with kanji, its

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

That's good news, tomoe_musashi. Thanks for confirming! Just uploaded to the archive. On 2016-03-16 14:16, tomoe_musashi wrote: > Here comes a problem, in non-CJK locale, Firefox uses TakaoPGohtic > to render non-lang-specified content, even with the > 64-language-selector-prefer.conf config

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

I'm confused. What I did in this latest version (which just reached the archive) was putting "Noto Sans CJK JP" before the Chinese equivalents. If non- language-specified content (I assume you are talking about Chinese characters) had been rendered using "Noto Sans CJK JP", it would have made

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Just played with the new 64-language-selector-prefer.conf from PPA in a live-session with English locale. It didn't affect language-specified content, SChinese contents are in Noto SC and TChinese contents are in Noto TC(Firefox) non-lanuage-specified content will just render according to the

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.162 --- language-selector (0.162) xenial; urgency=medium * fontconfig/64-language-selector-prefer.conf: Make Japanese contents be rendered using "Noto Sans CJK JP" in case of a non-CJKV locale (LP: #1540063, LP:

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

ping On 2016-03-15 02:39, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > ... I'd appreciate if a few Chinese users could install > language-selector from the PPA and let us know how Chinese > characters look in a session with a non-Chinese locale. Anyone? -- You received this bug notification because you are a

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

In an attempt to fix bug #1540063 better I'm playing with variants of the new 64-language-selector-prefer.conf file via a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/japanese-fonts However, there is a risk that the current test version of the file affects rendering of Chinese contents

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Noto Sans will be default for Chinese in 16.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK Status in

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Is Source Han Sans (Noto Sans) going to be the default fonts in Ubuntu 16.04? If it is true, it will be nice. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #81453 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81453 ** Changed in: fontconfig Importance: Medium => Unknown ** Changed in: fontconfig Status: Confirmed => Unknown ** Changed in: fontconfig Remote watch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Tags added: xenial ** Tags added: cjk -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK Status in Fontconfig:

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** No longer affects: fonts-noto-cjk (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK Status in

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Also affects: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

With the new .conf file, the interesting fonts appear in this order for me when running with a non-CJKV locale on a system where the Chinese language support (with the fonts-arphic-* packages) is present: $ fc-match -a sans-serif | grep -iE 'noto|takao|ar pl' | head -22 NotoSansCJK.ttc: "Noto

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.161 --- language-selector (0.161) xenial; urgency=medium * fontconfig/64-language-selector-prefer.conf, debian/language-selector-common.links: Prevent that UKai and UMing is picked over default Chinese and Japanese

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Yes, tomoe_musashi, they may well be related somehow. I'm not sure, though, that "Noto Sans CJK SC" would be picked in case of a Japanese locale, considering that "Noto Sans CJK JP" exists. I decided to let language-selector-common provide the contents of the proposed fonts-noto-cjk patch, and

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

@Gunnar @Yuan, i think it is a related bug. If the latest patch for fonts-noto-cjk is released, We will see that the Noto Sans CJK SC is picked up instead of TakaoPGothic in the first screen of ubiquity installation(before choosing "Try Ubuntu" and specifying the language). -- You received

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

> BTW, may this be a related bug? > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/1540063 It looks like some (traditional?) Chinese font (kai?) is picked up instead of the "Takao Pゴシック" Japanese font requested. Due to the lack of the glyphs, it's further fallbacked to other(?) "ゴシック"

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-03-13 00:46, Kenichi Ito wrote: > BTW, may this be a related bug? > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/1540063 Don't think so. One step in debugging bug #1540063 may be to run a live session in Japanese, open a terminal window and run this command: fc-match -s | head -10

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

BTW, may this be a related bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/1540063 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

On 2016-03-12 18:46, Mingye Wang wrote: > Let me file the fc demi report separately then. A fix is always > better than a hack, and with Noto Sans CJK hacked there are still a > whole bunch of Notos and other weight-rich fonts. A separate fc demi report is a good idea IMO. As regards other

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** No longer affects: fontconfig (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to fontconfig in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK Status in Fontconfig:

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Let me file the fc demi report separately then. A fix is always better than a hack, and with Noto Sans CJK hacked there are still a whole bunch of Notos and other weight-rich fonts. Just realized my PPA pkg is based on 2.11.1-0ubuntu6 instead of current ubuntu8, hmm. Can't see xenial on bzr...

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.160 --- language-selector (0.160) xenial; urgency=medium * fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-*.conf: Make "Regular" the default font weight for "Noto Sans CJK" (LP: #1468027). -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

@Mingye: I'm not able to tell if adding all those patches to the Ubuntu fontconfig package would give us the same result. But it would require quite some work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to fontconfig in

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

I uploaded language-selector with the change we discussed and attached a modified fonts-noto-cjk patch. This way it will be easier for people to see what "Regular" as default weight instead of "DemiLight" looks like. ** Patch added: "fonts-noto-cjk_ubuntu-conf.patch"

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** Patch removed: "fonts-noto-cjk_ubuntu-conf.patch" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-noto-cjk/+bug/1468027/+attachment/4588502/+files/fonts-noto-cjk_ubuntu-conf.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

I support to specify font weight directly in fontconfig. And It is OK to specify which font you want including font weight, so I think it is a normal usage case not a workaround anyway. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Ok, Mingye, it seems as if I stand corrected, and that it is an issue in the version of fontconfig in the Ubuntu archive. Nevertheless, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS will be released in a few weeks. Considering that it's "feature freeze", I doubt there is a plan to update fontconfig for 16.04. At the same

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Fontconfig 2.11.9x are actually devel versions. https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/fontconfig/Devel/ These patches are relevant: ffda7c0 bf9df5a be6506c # bug 82228 introduced by ffda7c0 01bb697 80edacc -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

So hi everyone... After letting Arthur use my computer for quite a while... well whatever. I've updated to 2.11.94 on AOSC OS, and here's what I've got. jeffbai [ ~ ] $ LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8 fc-match -a | head -31 NotoSansCJK-Regular.ttc: "Noto Sans CJK SC" "Regular" n019003l.pfb: "Nimbus Sans"

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

So updates from fontconfig for those who doesn't want to wait for the bugzilla crawler.. Fontconfig 2.11.1 is ancient, and support for demilight has been added in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81453, which ended up in those oddly-numbered releases like 2.11.91 or so. The current

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Yes, "Bold" works as well. The explanation is that each font has two family names: One which is prepended with the font weight and one which is not. $ fc-list : family | grep 'Noto Sans CJK SC' Noto Sans CJK SC,Noto Sans CJK SC Light Noto Sans CJK SC,Noto Sans CJK SC Regular Noto Sans CJK SC,Noto

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

gunnarhj: > Want to say, though, that the config file you mentioned in the upstream bug > report doesn't have anything to do with it. It's not in the Ubuntu archive > yet. Umm… The good news is they seen to point to the same problem, and on JeffBai's machine that's almost how the config was

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Maybe there is a possible simple solution, after all. As an experiment I added a line to 69-language-selector-zh-cn.conf: --- 69-language-selector-zh-cn.conf.old +++ 69-language-selector-zh-cn.conf @@ -27,6 +27,7 @@ zh-cn + Noto Sans

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Thanks for your work, Mingye. What you are doing is unfortunately above my head. ;) Want to say, though, that the config file you mentioned in the upstream bug report doesn't have anything to do with it. It's not in the Ubuntu archive yet. One fontconfig .conf file, which is in use at this time,

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Thanks for your work, Mingye. What you are doing is unfortunately above my head. ;) Want to say, though, that the config file you mentioned in the upstream bug report doesn't have anything to do with it. It's not in the Ubuntu archive yet. One fontconfig .conf file, which is in use at this time,

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

gryzzli, see the two links for something about fc-match speed: * https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-han-sans/issues/85#issuecomment-76082963 * https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64766 ** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #64766

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Fontconfig bug reported upstream. And again, everything is fine with Noto CJK. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 Title: change default CJK fonts

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

** No longer affects: fontconfig ** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #94505 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94505 ** Also affects: language-selector via https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94505 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** No longer

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

Gave up with fontforge and put the files into https://nodebox.github.io/opentype.js/font-inspector.html. Everything in the font looks perfectly normal now, but I am not sure if it's the good old fontFamily-fontSubfamily & preferredFamily- preferredSubfamily that confused fontconfig. Adding

[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468027] Re: change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK

The strange thing with my fontforge (well, some old msys build) is that I can't find any OS/2 table, while https://github.com/googlei18n/noto- cjk/issues/18 clearly mentions something related to os2.usWeightClass. Although doing `grep` still points me to the 'Regular' value in DemiLight, you

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