Much has changed since the last patch has been attached therefore it
does not apply cleanly now.
For Italian [1] CLDR says that the correct medium date format is "d MMM
y" (5 set 1999), correct medium time format is "HH:mm:ss" (13:25:59),
correct medium date and time format is "d MMM y, HH:mm:ss" (5 set 1999,
13:25:59).
For Italian in Switzerland [2] it provides the same data although marks
them as "unconfirmed".
(In reply to Nicolo' Chieffo from comment #18)
> Ok, so I will change date_fmt to not contain abbreviations.
I've checked some locales and they all contain abbreviations in date_fmt
so I think it is perfectly OK to contain abbreviations.
> What about the timezone? Should it be present for both date_fmt and
d_fmt?
Most (but not all) of the locales contain the timezone in d_t_fmt but
the default C locale does not. Therefore I think it is correct not to
include the timezone in d_t_fmt but include it in date_fmt.
Now about the patch:
> * d_t_fmt: "%a %e %b %Y, %T, %Z"
> - remove the leading zero in the day of month using '%e' instead of '%b'
Good idea but I think you'd rather use "%-d" which means "do not pad
with zero". "%e" means "pad with space", "%-e" means "do not pad with
space" and therefore has the same effect as "%-d". Also, I think that
the timezone should be removed.
I will write a new patch and replace it with "%-d" and remove ", %Z".
> - add ',' to separate date, time and timezone
Good, CLDR says that date and time should be separated with a comma.
> * t_fmt: "%H.%M.%S"
> - express the time in the expanded way instead of using '%T', to be sure to
> use the correct values
CLDR says there should be colons rather than dots therefore I will
reject this change. Also I will restore the format with colons in
date_fmt. "%T" means that "%H:%M:%S" is used literally therefore it is
correct.
> * date_fmt: "%c"
> - make date_fmt and d_t_fmt the same
As said above, date_fmt should contain the timezone while d_t_fmt (which
is used by "%c") should not. Therefore I think that the correct
date_fmt should be "%a %-d %b %Y, %T, %Z" (ven 14 set 2018, 22:07:41,
CEST)
Also, I will change d_fmt in it_CH from "%d. %m. %y" (which looks bad)
to "%d.%m.%Y" (which is the same as de_CH and is almost the same as CLDR
suggests). I will not change d_fmt in it_IT because it looks almost the
same as CLDR. (In both cases CLDR suggests two-digit year while we have
four digits.)
[1] http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/it/Gregorian/
[2] http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/it_CH/Gregorian/
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420609
Title:
wrong LC_TIME in Italian
Status in GLibC:
Fix Released
Status in eglibc package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in glibc package in Ubuntu:
Invalid
Bug description:
Accordingly to this file [1], this newspaper [2], and also because I'm
Italian, there is an error in the way the date is displayed in linux.
The correct format for Italian speakers is:
day_name day_number month_name year, HH:MM:SS, time_zone
in the LC_TIME date_fmt things are really mixed up and should be changed to:
%a %e %b %Y, %H:%M:%S, %Z
the file localedata/locales/it_IT needs to be changed, but I can't
understand how, since there are only strange codes
[1]:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/globalization/locales/Italy-Italian_Date.pdf
[2]: http://www.corriere.it/
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