subject:"\[Touch\-packages\] \[Bug 1861481\] Re\: language\-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated"

Related pull request: https://github.com/canonical/lightdm/pull/111

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

On 2020-02-07 16:41, Alkis Georgopoulos wrote:
> I checked with 20.04 and it appears that recent Ubuntu live CDs
> don't have boot=casper anymore; they do still have
> initrd=/casper/initrd;

I also saw that /proc/cmdline contains BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/..., so the
approach would probably have worked with a minor modification.

> but anyway, ^/cow should be fine (sorry I hadn't noticed the ^ there
> before).

Ok, good, then I keep the debdiff for now, in the hope that some sponsor
will approve and upload it soon.

> Thank you for your work in this.

Thank you for reporting it. The current behavior in live sessions of the
flavors is indeed unintentional and unnecessary.

** No longer affects: accountsservice (Ubuntu)

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

I checked with 20.04 and it appears that recent Ubuntu live CDs don't
have boot=casper anymore; they do still have initrd=/casper/initrd; but
anyway, ^/cow should be fine (sorry I hadn't noticed the ^ there
before).

Thank you for your work in this.

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

On 2020-02-07 13:41, Alkis Georgopoulos wrote:
> The "grep cow" approach breaks the LTSP package and other software
> that uses a COW root.

Do those packages cause the file system /cow, listed by the df command,
to be mounted? If yes, I wouldn't mind to modify the debdiff. Please let
me know.

> To check for casper, please `grep -w boot=casper /proc/cmdline` or
> something casper-specific.

Thanks for the tip!

> In schools, we sometimes have students of various nationalities.
> They're not frequent enough to install whole langpacks for them, but
> they are frequent enough to configure locales for them (locale-gen).

It's unclear to me why it's more difficult to install language packs
than generating locales separately.

In any case, I would prefer to consider this aspect to be beyond the
scope of this bug report.

> Of course it's your call.

Yes. :)

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

I commented before I saw the previous reply; I'll reply to that now.

The "grep cow" approach breaks the LTSP package and other software that uses a 
COW root.
To check for casper, please `grep -w boot=casper /proc/cmdline` or something 
casper-specific.

In schools, we sometimes have students of various nationalities. They're
not frequent enough to install whole langpacks for them, but they are
frequent enough to configure locales for them (locale-gen).

I do not see any reason to keep the Ubuntu-specific
04_language_handling.patch, when we know that it's causing issues and we
do not know its benefit. Of course it's your call. :)

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Btw, lightdm doesn't set LANGUAGE at all in Debian; it only sets LANG,
like GDM, and everything works fine.

Gunnar, do you see any issues with just completely dropping your 
04_language_handling.patch?
Or at least this line there:

+session_set_env (session, "LANGUAGE", language);

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Not sure why you would want to uninstall the language packs for a
language you have configured. You are not supposed to do that. Please
use "Language Support" to manage your languages.

This special thing in LightDM is there for a reason (even if I don't
remember the reason exactly). I'm not ready to propose something which
might have adverse side effects.

Attached please find a debdiff which I think fixes it in live sessions.
The real test can be done only after the new version of lightdm has
reached the daily build ISOs. Would appreciate your confirmation when
that happens.

** Patch added: "lightdm_lp1861481.debdiff"

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/1861481/+attachment/5326214/+files/lightdm_lp1861481.debdiff

** Changed in: lightdm (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: lightdm (Ubuntu)
Status: New => In Progress

** Changed in: lightdm (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) => Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)

** Tags added: patch

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Title:
language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
In Progress

Bug description:
Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

The chain of events is:
LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
`locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly
updated the locales.
But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

I mean that if, on a normal 20.04 installation, I uninstall the el langpack, 
then
1) If I'm using GDM, universe apps show Greek,
2) If I'm using LightDM, universe apps show English (this one regressed in 
19.10).

If we're modifying LightDM, I suggest to modify LightDM to not set LANGUAGE at 
all, not just in live CDs.
This is what GDM does and it works fine everywhere.

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Because the translations of all the "main" packages (and a few others)
are brought by the language packs, and also MATE users most likely use
some "main" packages. He is simply supposed to have the language packs
for his language installed. That's how Ubuntu including the flavors has
been designed for many cycles.

Since we are close to the release of an LTS, I want to narrow the fix to
only affect where it matters, i.e. the live sessions.

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

2020-02-06 Thread Alkis Georgopoulos

Gunnar, so if a MATE user doesn't have the langpack installed, he shouldn't 
have a translated session?
Why do we want to fix this only for Live CDs?

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

2020-02-06 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson

Idea from https://askubuntu.com/q/442055

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

2020-02-06 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson

Yeah, I tend to think that the fix should be made in lightdm. My idea is
to modify the patch, so LANGUAGE is set only if this conditional is
satisfied:

if (system ("df | grep ^/cow >/dev/null") != 0)

That way LANGUAGE should not be set in a live session AFAIU.

@Sebastien: Do you think this is a proper way to test for a live
session?

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

2020-02-05 Thread Alkis Georgopoulos

The reason that this regression doesn't affect ubuntu-desktop, might be
that unlike LightDM, GDM doesn't have that Ubuntu-specific patch to use
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options.

So, I subscribed "lightdm (Ubuntu)" to the affected packages, in case we
just want to drop the Ubuntu-specific patch, and that way make lightdm
not pass LANGUAGE when it shouldn't.

I think that this won't address the source of the regression, but it
will make the problem not appear in flavors that use lightdm which
should be good enough.

** Also affects: lightdm (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

2020-02-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher

(untagging from rls tracking since it's not impacting Ubuntu Desktop,
doesn't block us to work on a fix still)

** Tags removed: rls-ff-incoming
** Tags added: rls-ff-notfixing

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

2020-02-01 Thread Alkis Georgopoulos

On a focal live cd, I tried to downgrade lightdm and accountsservice to
their bionic versions and restart their services without rebooting, yet
again the session was not translated. So I'm at a loss on which package
was the one that caused the change in 19.10, maybe even glibc itself.

Nevertheless, I was able to reproduce a similar problem in a normal
(non-live) focal installation, by just purging language-pack-el, or by
just moving aside the directory /usr/share/locale-langpack/el and
restarting accounts-daemon and lightdm.

Without the language pack, my LANGUAGE is "en" and my session is
untranslated. And if I launch d-feet and check
/org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000 => org.freedesktop.Accounts.User =>
property Language, it says "en".

I think that is the problem, accountsservice should report that my
language is either "el" or empty, but definitely not "en". Even if the
langpack isn't there, LANG in /etc/default/locale is el_GR.UTF-8, and I
don't have "en" defined anywhere in my system or my account; and MATE
can show Greek even without a langpack.

I think then LightDM will work fine without any changes.
Does this approach sound OK?

** Changed in: accountsservice (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

2020-01-31 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson

I actually meant the locale command without options, but I still think
you provided the info we need. ;)

On 2020-01-31 19:48, Alkis Georgopoulos wrote:
> It's not /etc/default/locale, in all the cases only LANG is there
> and not LANGUAGE.

LightDM does set LANGUAGE for some reason through an Ubuntu specific
patch, and it might explain it. The weird thing is that LightDM has done
that since long before 19.10.

Anyway, maybe we should simply stop LightDM from messing with LANGUAGE
when run in a live session.

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

I.e. from what I can see, the basic difference is that since 19.10,
something sets LANGUAGE=en.

While in the Italian session that has a langpack in the live iso,
LANGUAGE=it.

It's not /etc/default/locale, in all the cases only LANG is there and
not LANGUAGE.

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Hi Gunnar, here are the results:

Output of Ubuntu MATE 20.04 today's daily build:

$ env | grep LANG
LANGUAGE=en
GDM_LANG=en
LANG=el_GR.UTF-8

$ locale -a
C
C.UTF-8
de_AT.utf8
de_BE.utf8
de_CH.utf8
de_DE.utf8
de_IT.utf8
de_LI.utf8
de_LU.utf8
el_GR.utf8
en_AG
en_AG.utf8
en_AU.utf8
en_BW.utf8
en_CA.utf8
en_DK.utf8
en_GB.utf8
en_HK.utf8
en_IE.utf8
en_IL
en_IL.utf8
en_IN
en_IN.utf8
en_NG
en_NG.utf8
en_NZ.utf8
en_PH.utf8
en_SG.utf8
en_US.utf8
en_ZA.utf8
en_ZM
en_ZM.utf8
en_ZW.utf8
es_AR.utf8
es_BO.utf8
es_CL.utf8
es_CO.utf8
es_CR.utf8
es_CU
es_CU.utf8
es_DO.utf8
es_EC.utf8
es_ES.utf8
es_GT.utf8
es_HN.utf8
es_MX.utf8
es_NI.utf8
es_PA.utf8
es_PE.utf8
es_PR.utf8
es_PY.utf8
es_SV.utf8
es_US.utf8
es_UY.utf8
es_VE.utf8
fr_BE.utf8
fr_CA.utf8
fr_CH.utf8
fr_FR.utf8
fr_LU.utf8
it_CH.utf8
it_IT.utf8
POSIX
pt_BR.utf8
pt_PT.utf8
ru_RU.utf8
ru_UA.utf8

$ /usr/share/language-tools/language-options
de_CH
de_DE
en
en_AU
en_CA
en_GB
en_US
es_AR
es_CL
es_CO
es_CR
es_DO
es_EC
es_ES
es_MX
es_NI
es_PA
es_PE
es_PR
es_SV
es_US
es_UY
es_VE
fr_CA
fr_FR
it_IT
pt_BR
pt_PT
ru


Output of Ubuntu MATE 18.04.3 iso:

$ env | grep LANG
LANG=el_GR.UTF-8

$ locale -a
C
C.UTF-8
de_AT.utf8
de_BE.utf8
de_CH.utf8
de_DE.utf8
de_IT.utf8
de_LI.utf8
de_LU.utf8
el_GR.utf8
en_AG
en_AG.utf8
en_AU.utf8
en_BW.utf8
en_CA.utf8
en_DK.utf8
en_GB.utf8
en_HK.utf8
en_IE.utf8
en_IL
en_IL.utf8
en_IN
en_IN.utf8
en_NG
en_NG.utf8
en_NZ.utf8
en_PH.utf8
en_SG.utf8
en_US.utf8
en_ZA.utf8
en_ZM
en_ZM.utf8
en_ZW.utf8
es_AR.utf8
es_BO.utf8
es_CL.utf8
es_CO.utf8
es_CR.utf8
es_CU
es_CU.utf8
es_DO.utf8
es_EC.utf8
es_ES.utf8
es_GT.utf8
es_HN.utf8
es_MX.utf8
es_NI.utf8
es_PA.utf8
es_PE.utf8
es_PR.utf8
es_PY.utf8
es_SV.utf8
es_US.utf8
es_UY.utf8
es_VE.utf8
fr_BE.utf8
fr_CA.utf8
fr_CH.utf8
fr_FR.utf8
fr_LU.utf8
it_CH.utf8
it_IT.utf8
POSIX
pt_BR.utf8
pt_PT.utf8
ru_RU.utf8
ru_UA.utf8
zh_CN.utf8
zh_SG.utf8

$ /usr/share/language-tools/language-options
de_CH
de_DE
en
en_AU
en_CA
en_GB
en_US
es_AR
es_CL
es_CO
es_CR
es_DO
es_EC
es_ES
es_MX
es_NI
es_PA
es_PE
es_PR
es_SV
es_US
es_UY
es_VE
fr_CA
fr_FR
it_IT
pt_BR
pt_PT
ru
zh_CN

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

2020-01-31 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson

@Alkis: Since it sounds as if you have access to both a 18.04 and a
19.10 ISO, can you please check what the locale command outputs in the
live session of respective release.

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

No, sorry, that's not it, I removed it and restarted lightdm and I still
had LANGUAGE=en in the live session.

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861481] Re: language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

In Ubuntu 20.04 live CD, in .xsession-errors, I see this line:

dbus-update-activation-environment: setting LANGUAGE=en

Maybe that's to blame here; looking more...

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Title:
  language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated

Status in accountsservice package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Since Ubuntu 19.10, for all Ubuntu live CDs that use LightDM (e.g.
  MATE and Xubuntu), if a user selects a language in syslinux other than
  those with an included langpack, the session is then untranslated.

  For example, if one boots Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and selects Greek in
  syslinux, he ends up with LANGUAGE=en in the session.

  The chain of events is:
  LightDM has an Ubuntu-specific patch that makes it call 
/usr/share/language-tools/language-options instead of the upstream `locale -a`.
  `locale -a` does list el_GR as a supported locale because casper correctly 
updated the locales.
  But language-options doesn't list el_GR, so it fools LightDM into thinking 
that Greek aren't supported; while they're all there, since e.g. MATE doesn't 
rely on langpacks; mate-panel.mo and mate-calc.mo etc are all there.

  I believe the correct fix would be for language-options to list el_GR
  on live CDs (to merge the output of locale -a in its output).

  Thanks!

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