[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
Is Cody actively working on this? If not, should he be unassigned? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
The file-chooser dialog as descripted in comment No. 43 bothers me since I updated to Jammy. It's not the state of art and workflow. Glad I found this place to urgently beg for a change. I will try the solutions offered in comments 41 and 42. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
Just adding my support to those rallying for change on this issue. I tried colas' script in the background, but whilst it does report that it's resetting location-mode, it doesn't seem to be solving the problem for me (on Jammy Jellyfish). I also noticed there's another schema/key, org.gtk.gtk4.Settings.FileChooser location-mode so I tried running two copies of the script to cover both keys, but that's still not giving me any joy. Perhaps the issue is that I'm using awesomewm, but it's the same Save As dialog I'd have thought. Either way - this is far and away the worst feature of Ubuntu for me - it bothers me every time I use it. My personal feeling is that all other cosmetic development on Ubuntu should be stopped until this issue - that must be used thousands - maybe millions? of times a day - is fixed. Thanks to all those above who've pushed for this. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
Le samedi 20 novembre 2021 à 14:12 +, colas a écrit : > I think I have found the solution: > Set org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser.LocationMode to "filename-entry" Yes! Now it must be made the default value in Debian! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
I think I have found the solution: Set org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser.LocationMode to "filename-entry" In dconf, see attached screenshot ** Attachment added: "Using Dconf to set the value" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/387957/+attachment/5542271/+files/Screenshot%20from%202021-11-20%2015-10-50.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
This is a very irritating thing, and should be easy to solve. The fix is just changing initial focus! Hard to understand this has been open for 12 years now. There's even a risk of data loss by unintentionally overwriting a file when one types, *as it works just fine on all other OS*, the filename to save the file as and hits return... overwriting some other file that just happened to "match" the "filter". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
This truly feels like a significant downgrade when coming from any other OS. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
Agreed. yaztromo identified the frustration well. I've been living with this in Mint Cinnamon for years, and still can't seem to get used to it. Thanks for the Alt+N shortcut (works in English/US version). Maybe that'll help me stop cursing at my computer every time I save a file. Returning the focus to the filename after using the mouse (or touchpad) to navigate into a folder would be ideal. The only reason to use the find is when input is solely from keyboard. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
I'm also hit by this daily and think that it should be fixed. Thanks @phusen for the tip of the Alt+N shorcut! But even with the Alt+N shortcut it is confusing that a highlighted field does not have focus. And after Alt+N I still have to click the Save button with the mouse as the Enter key now does not finish the dialog. The general goal-level requirement from a usability perspective: "It should be easy to use the save dialog both with mouse and keyboard only." -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
I would like to note that this is still/again a problem in 2019 on Ubuntu 19.04. (I didn't notice it on 18.10, but maybe I just missed it.) I agree with pretty much everything that gdi2k wrote above, particularly that the following seemingly simple change would remove a significant annoyance for anyone who occasionally uses the mouse without at all detracting from keyboard-only functionality: "Reverting focus to the Name field if a folder is double-clicked using the mouse (familiar Windows behaviour, which does not impact keyboard- using advanced users in any way)." -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File -> Save As (to bring up the "Save" dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the "file type" dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
Playing a bit around, I found a few workarounds: 1) The thumb button, which I have never used, on my very old Logitech mouse will set the focus without touching the selection. However, not everybody has thumb buttons - particularly on laptops. Scrolling with the mouse wheel in the field does nothing. I guess, if it doesn't have any function already, it could be used as a way to set focus too? 2) Right clicking and selecting copy (as the most neutral option) does the trick too at the cost of replacing what you have in the copy/paste clipboard. Not good, if you were planning to hit Ctrl-C as soon as you get focus with the file name selected. A focus option in the context menu would solve this, but I guess, that one is hard to sell. 3) I just discovered that the good old Alt-N for the file name field (at least in my Danish version) still works. The underscore doesn't appear until you press alt, making it hard to discover. I guess that is a design decision - aesthetics? Also it takes around a second for the underscores to appear, which makes it feel quite slow and, IMO, even harder to discover. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File - Save As (to bring up the Save dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File - Save As (to bring up the Save dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the file type dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 387957] Re: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues)
Sorry for the spamming. I forgot to mention my last idea: Clicking the label for the field could be a way to set focus to the field. I think it does this on Windows, but correct me if I'm wrong. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387957 Title: Improve Save As Dialog Box (focus issues) Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Invalid Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: The save dialog box has the irritating habit of not focusing on the file name area once I have browsed to the location where I would like to save my document. This is done better in Windows. There are two main scenarios when saving a document where this behaviour annoys: Scanario 1 - Browsing to save location by double-clicking: 1. File - Save As (to bring up the Save dialog box). 2. Double click on the folder in which you would like to save the document. 3. Notice that the focus is now in the folder list area, not on the file name area. 4. I now have to click in the file name area to be able to name my document. In Windows, the focus is returned immediately to the file name box once a folder is double clicked, so the name can be typed and the document saved in one step. Scenario 2 - Browsing save location using the keyboard (find as you type): 1. File - Save As (to bring up the Save dialog box). 2. Click on the folder area so that folder names can be typed to find them. Hit enter to enter desired folder. 3. Within the folder, step 2 can be repeated for subfolders indefinitely. 4. Once the desired location has been reached, the user must use the mouse click in the file name area to name the file before saving. In Windows, when using find as you type, although focus is retained by the folder area when entering a lower folder level (so that you can browse to another level using the keyboard if desired), jumping to the file name box is simply a matter of pressing tab ONCE. In Ubuntu, I have to reverse tab (shift-tab) around 10 times to get back to the file name box at the top of the screen, or use the mouse - most annoying. Solutions (copy the Windows behaviour): 1. If a folder is double clicked with the mouse, the focus should jump back to the file name box. 2. If a folder is entered into by pressing enter (on the keyboard), focus should remain in the folder area, but the file name box should only be a single tab away. I understand that solution 2 is problematic in that tabbing would ordinarily jump to the next element (usually the file type dropdown), not back to the top of the screen. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387957/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
