[Touch-packages] [Bug 1577414] Re: Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

Alas, I’m just a designer. For advice on that you’d need an engineer.
:-)

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Title:
  Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

Status in indicator-datetime package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Dear all,

  May I suggest the feature to add time zones, e.g. CEST, EDT, directly
  to the very useful locations menu?

  Currently only city names are supported.

  I am attaching two screenshots:

  1. showing the locations menu
  2. a mockup of how I envision the time zone to be represented in the indicator

  Thankfully,

  ~Robert

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1577414] Re: Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

[Robert Orzanna]

Dear Matthew,

Thanks a lot for your follow-up comment!

> We would have to start maintaining a parallel database that mapped
tzdata zone names, in and out of daylight saving, to their common
abbreviations. Common names would be even harder because they’d need
translating into multiple languages.

The only open point I can read from your comment is actually this one.

How do you suggest to proceed? Would it be worthwhile maintaining a
parallel database and what could the potential contribution of users
look like to this project?

~Robert

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Title:
  Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

Status in indicator-datetime package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Dear all,

  May I suggest the feature to add time zones, e.g. CEST, EDT, directly
  to the very useful locations menu?

  Currently only city names are supported.

  I am attaching two screenshots:

  1. showing the locations menu
  2. a mockup of how I envision the time zone to be represented in the indicator

  Thankfully,

  ~Robert

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1577414] Re: Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

There are two separate issues here: choosing the time zone as an item in
the first place, and displaying it in the menu once it’s chosen.

For choosing the time zone as an item, you can already do that with UTC,
because we made sure “UTC” is special-cased as something you can search
for. In theory, we could do the same with all the time zone names, and
first-letter abbreviations of all the time zone names: no dialog, just
make them options in the menu.

Right now, though, there is nothing in Ubuntu that knows the names or
abbreviations of any other time zones — because the time zone database
we use (tzdata) doesn’t contain them. It contains information about all
the daylight saving changes for a zone called “America/New_York”, going
back to 1918 … but it can’t tell you that when in daylight saving, the
“America/New_York” zone is called EDT. We would have to start
maintaining a parallel database that mapped tzdata zone names, in and
out of daylight saving, to their common abbreviations. Common names
would be even harder because they’d need translating into multiple
languages.

For displaying the time zone in the menu once it’s chosen, multiple time
zones with the same abbreviation is not actually a problem. As shown in
this screenshot, it’s already the case that you can add multiple cities
with the same name and they aren’t distinguished. We trust that either
you won’t do that, or that you’ll know which is which. The same could be
true for time zone abbreviations.

** Attachment added: "menu showing multiple cities with the same name"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1577414/+attachment/4661363/+files/1577414-menu-times.png

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Title:
  Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

Status in indicator-datetime package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Dear all,

  May I suggest the feature to add time zones, e.g. CEST, EDT, directly
  to the very useful locations menu?

  Currently only city names are supported.

  I am attaching two screenshots:

  1. showing the locations menu
  2. a mockup of how I envision the time zone to be represented in the indicator

  Thankfully,

  ~Robert

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1577414] Re: Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

[Robert Orzanna]

Dear Matthew,

Thanks for raising these two issues.

1. The use of time zones instead of city names is very common in meeting
plannings. For instance, I receive frequent invitations to calls that
are expressed in "16:00 EDT time". People in these meetings rarely refer
to their location as a city.

2. This is a good point. Upon user input of, for instance ACT, could the
system detect that there are two with the same name and ask the user to
pick the correct one?

~Robert

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Title:
  Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

Status in indicator-datetime package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Dear all,

  May I suggest the feature to add time zones, e.g. CEST, EDT, directly
  to the very useful locations menu?

  Currently only city names are supported.

  I am attaching two screenshots:

  1. showing the locations menu
  2. a mockup of how I envision the time zone to be represented in the indicator

  Thankfully,

  ~Robert

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1577414] Re: Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

I see two issues with using time zone abbreviations like this.

First, I think many more people know the name of a city in their time
zone, than know the name of their time zone. For example, I lived in
London for several years before learning that daylight savings time is
called BST.

Second, there are many time zones that have the same abbreviation. For
example, there are two time zones abbreviated “ACT”, two “ADT”, two
“AMST”, two “AMT”, and two “AST”, and those are just the ones starting
with A. 

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Title:
  Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

Status in indicator-datetime package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Dear all,

  May I suggest the feature to add time zones, e.g. CEST, EDT, directly
  to the very useful locations menu?

  Currently only city names are supported.

  I am attaching two screenshots:

  1. showing the locations menu
  2. a mockup of how I envision the time zone to be represented in the indicator

  Thankfully,

  ~Robert

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1577414] Re: Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

[Sebastien Bacher]

** Changed in: indicator-datetime (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

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Title:
  Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

Status in indicator-datetime package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Dear all,

  May I suggest the feature to add time zones, e.g. CEST, EDT, directly
  to the very useful locations menu?

  Currently only city names are supported.

  I am attaching two screenshots:

  1. showing the locations menu
  2. a mockup of how I envision the time zone to be represented in the indicator

  Thankfully,

  ~Robert

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1577414] Re: Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

[Robert Orzanna]

** Attachment added: "Mockup of time zone representation"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1577414/+attachment/4653656/+files/Selection_043.png

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Title:
  Adding time zones to locations of indicator-datetime

Status in indicator-datetime package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Dear all,

  May I suggest the feature to add time zones, e.g. CEST, EDT, directly
  to the very useful locations menu?

  Currently only city names are supported.

  I am attaching two screenshots:

  1. showing the locations menu
  2. a mockup of how I envision the time zone to be represented in the indicator

  Thankfully,

  ~Robert

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