[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Jean-Baptiste Lallement]

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

I was just saying that if the decision was made to keep xkb-keymap then
there had to be a decision to start using it implicitly in ubiquity. And
by 'using' I didn't just mean the literal sense of us using the value
explicitly, but acting accordingly to what consequences it brings - as
it requires us to do one of the two as you mentioned in your post. So I
don't think there's much of a misunderstanding here. It's all good and I
guess for the next merge we should proceed with adjusting things so that
ubiquity is happy with the changes.

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre]

There was a misunderstanding there: I never suggested we should use xkb-
keymap instead (or at least, that's not the message I was trying to
convey).

The intent was to reduce delta by not removing so much code, when
console-setup merges are already difficult. I didn't foresee that some
of that code setting a default would impact ubiquity (because ubiquity
does things specially with d-i components, sometimes running them
multiple times). There's always a need to update ubiquity after changing
d-i components; it's inevitable since some of them are embedded in
ubiquity source.

The removals of xkb-keymaps aren't ubiquity-specific: we don't use this
code in d-i, and instead use multiple screens to change keyboards.
That's a conscious decision.

The point for supporting xkb-keymap "in ubiquity" is more about making
sure that we either "rebuild" the value based on layoutcode/variantcode,
or otherwise unset it before running the configuration script -- ie.
leave it in, but just explicitly ignore its values.

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Launchpad Bug Tracker]

This bug was fixed in the package console-setup - 1.178ubuntu2

---
console-setup (1.178ubuntu2) bionic; urgency=medium

  * debian/keyboard-configuration.config:
- Drop the xkb-keymap bits once again as we're not ready for those yet, as
  it's currently causing an invalid default layout in the installer.
  (LP: #1758647)

 -- Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak   Thu, 19 Apr
2018 08:53:32 +0200

** Changed in: console-setup (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

** Changed in: console-setup (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Committed
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  Fix Committed
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic)
 Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel) => Łukasz Zemczak (sil2100)

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  In Progress
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

I talked with cyphermox and it seems the delta was removed intentionally
- with the intention of just starting to use xkb-keymap in ubiquity -
but this cycle that didn't happen. Since it does require a small amount
of design work and we're really close to release, it's best to just re-
introduce the changes. I'll be uploading as soon as I have a moment.

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  In Progress
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

I think I finally understand how the whole default-keyboard
configuration is done in ubiquity and console-setup. The reason why it's
busted is indeed the keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap debconf variable.
The reason everything worked up until artful was that before artful we
have been reverting the xkb-keymap pieces from keyboard-
configuration.config because of ubiquity (mostly), and this change was
dropped with the artful console-setup merge with Debian. I'm trying to
ask around if that was intentional or not. If it was, then we need to
handle setting of xkb-keymap after performing language selection
(possibly in ubiquity). If not, then we'd have to remove it - or at
least the pieces where xkb-keymap is overriding all locale/country-based
default keyboard layout selection in console-setup.

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  In Progress
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

** Changed in: console-setup (Ubuntu Bionic)
   Status: New => In Progress

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  In Progress
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Francis Ginther]

** Tags added: id-5ad61a208d39d0e15b7bb3c2

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  New
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Łukasz Zemczak]

** Changed in: console-setup (Ubuntu Bionic)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Łukasz Zemczak (sil2100)

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  New
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Jean-Baptiste Lallement]

>From the logs it seems that even if the locale is set to a non-english
language, the config variable xkb-keymap introduced in 17.10 is set to
'us' and Ubiquity uses this value to update the UI.

Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET debian-installer/locale
debconf (developer): <-- GET debian-installer/locale
debconf (developer): --> 1 fr_FR.UTF-8
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET localechooser/languagelist
debconf (developer): <-- GET localechooser/languagelist
debconf (developer): --> 1 fr
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET debian-installer/country
debconf (developer): <-- GET debian-installer/country
debconf (developer): --> 1 FR
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap
debconf (developer): --> 1 us
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/modelcode
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/modelcode
debconf (developer): --> 1 
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/layoutcode
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/layoutcode
debconf (developer): --> 1 
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/variantcode
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/variantcode
debconf (developer): --> 1 
Apr 17 08:55:11 debconf (filter): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/optionscode
debconf (developer): <-- GET keyboard-configuration/optionscode
debconf (developer): --> 1

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  New
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1758647] Re: ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

[Sebastien Bacher]

jibel is looking at this one but it looks like a console-setup issue at
this point

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic)
 Assignee: Sebastien Bacher (seb128) => Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel)

** Also affects: console-setup (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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Title:
  ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout

Status in console-setup package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in console-setup source package in Bionic:
  New
Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Bionic:
  Invalid
Status in ubiquity source package in Bionic:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  In Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver, daily builds of
  March 25, the right default keymap isn't preselected when you select
  "Nederlands" (i.e. Dutch) as language for the installation.

  It's now "English, US" but should be:
  "English (US) - English (US, intl., with dead keys)".

  Or, in other words, it should be:
  XKBLAYOUT="us"
  XKBVARIANT="intl"

  (additional remark in order to prevent any misunderstandings: the
  original Dutch keyboard (nl) has completely disappeared long ago, so
  all keyboards sold in the Netherlands have US keyboards which need the
  "intl" xkbvariant with dead keys, in order to be able to type accents)

  This is a regression, at least compared with Ubuntu 16.04 and earlier
  (I don't know about 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10).

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