> Canonical needs to make money and those ads aren't spammy at all.
I get ads on every single SSH login, that is incredibly spammy.
Currently for me that is majority of ad consumption and I will get rid
of it even if it means migration of several servers I am managing to a
different OS.
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This is just malicious. You are not only packacking Ubuntu as adware,
you are making it deliberately harder to unbreak for people interested
specifically in spam removal.
While Ubuntu with easily removed ads would be still adware it would be
at least less annoying for people wishing to fix it.
Hi,
Very interesting bug on how Canonical destroy the Ubuntu community just
"because the don't care"
I guess we should stop wasting our customers and time to fix ubuntu pro
and move to something else.
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I wouldn't even mind if the package was installed by default, but easily
uninstallable. It is unfortunately not the case, since it prompts that
it will also remove `xubuntu-desktop`, amongst many other packages.
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There's a difference between "this package is required to allow people
to use our paid services" and "this package spams everyone who doesn't
pay for our paid services". This flies in the face of the whole ethos of
free software imo.
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I think we all understand the direction here, Jeremy. You don't care
about non-paying users.
I'm not sure what being an Ubuntu Member means any more but what the
point if part of that isn't speaking out when there's a problem, and I
have to say that removing freedoms from users is about as big a
@Bartłomiej Żogała (nusch) -- turns out this was to due a dependency
update:
https://old.reddit.com/r/assholedesign/comments/yg97tk/ubuntu_includes_ads_in_system_update_theyre/jbxyq01/
There's a new version of the fake-ubuntu-advantage-tools package to fix
this here:
Doesn't really matter as package is installed both ways, only that all
dependencies need to be resolved later on. I've tried your method and it
suggest to remove ubuntu-desktop-minimal and software-properties-gtk -
which is not a solution here. IMHO the software-properties need also
seperated
I don't know it will make any difference or not, but FYI I've been installing
it this way:
apt install ./fake-ubuntu-advantage-tools.deb
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@sky-lake @vi0oss unfortunately
after doing
sudo dpkg -P --force-depends ubuntu-advantage-tools
sudo rm -rf /etc/ubuntu-advantage
and dpkg -i fake-ubuntu-advantage-tools.deb
on recent version I'm getting version specific dependency when doing apt-get
upgrade:
software-properties-gtk :
This is indeed a defect--marking it "wontfix" is not helpful.
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ubuntu-minimal depends on
vi0oss came up with a clever workaround for getting this spamware off
our systems.
> Can it be overridden with an additional package which Provides, Breaks and
> Conflicts with ubuntu-advantage-tools?
(From this comment
I agree with Jeremy Bicha here. Canonical needs to make money and those
ads aren't spammy at all. However I do want to see an option to turn
Ubuntu Advantage/Pro and promotional content off, for those who don't
want it.
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ubuntu-minimal should absolutely not force install of ubuntu-advantage-
tools. We're being force fed CLI ads via ubuntu-advantage-tools and we
HATE it. This package should at best be a 'recommends', and even then,
probably not.
I have no need of this spammy software, and yet I'm forced to
It's not about 2.6Mb storage space taken. It's about what those 2.6Mb of
logic does, how transparent the whole process is and how many potential
security vulnerabilities it may introduce due to not having one
transparent entrypoint for activation. You are exactly following
Microsoft way to
We are prioritizing people being able to easily activate Ubuntu
Advantage/Ubuntu Pro more than people who worry about 2.6 MB. People who
activate Ubuntu Advantage are generally paying customers. Those paying
customers make Ubuntu better for all of us by helping to fund a lot of
the work done in
So how would you like to identify and mark computers eligible for extended
support without user interaction ? And if user interaction is required why
can't you use the same launch method for installing extended support ?
And why installing 2.6Mbyes of logic on _all_ ubuntu instead of simple
Because you don't need to use apt-get to use Ubuntu.
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Why 'apt-get install ubuntu-extended-support' or similar isn't
considered simple there and you prefer to redefine meaning of 'minimal'
instead ?
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People must be allowed to upgrade their Ubuntu LTS install to get the 10
years of Extended Security Maintenance support offered by Ubuntu
Advantage or Ubuntu Pro. This needs to work easily for everyone running
Ubuntu. That is done with ubuntu-advantage-tools so that's why it's
installed and not
>It is required for the Ubuntu product to work as intended so we're not going
>to make it optional.
Could you make it clear what means 'as intended' ? As most users are not
interested in this, are you bound by some state actor to track users ? This
would be clear signal for users to search for
@wontfix, install motd-news-config if you need to configure that file.
It's installed by default on Ubuntu Server; I don't believe it's needed
on Ubuntu Desktop.
Sorry, ubuntu-advantage-tools is required to allow people to use Ubuntu
Advantage or Ubuntu Pro. It is required for the Ubuntu product
Just to add, the file listed at https://ubuntu.com/legal/motd to combat
this package's "feature" since it cannot be removed, no longer exists in
Jammy, 22.04.
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I would also like to see this change:
* ubuntu-advantage-tools and its dependencies add about 3MB to ubuntu-minimal
installations (checked by installing ubuntu-minimal's Depends in a Docker
container with and without u-a-t)
* it installs a systemd timer which runs (to do nothing, as the service
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Status: New => Confirmed
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