@Geraldo: When seeing your comment #175, I can't help thinking of bug
#1573755. It's a subtle issue, and to check if that is what you have,
you can either enter a guest session or create a new test user.
Otherwise, one observation I have made is that Wayland (enabled by
default in Ubuntu 17.10,
The following fix did the trick for me:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/4ezv4s/us_international_keyboard_giving_%C4%87_instead_of_%C3%A7/
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Hello Everyone. I've been following this thread and tried every fix here to no
avail.
I live in Canada and I want to keep my Ubuntu in English, with Canadian Locale
because most of the time I'll be writing in english and working regularly with
Canadian (very similar to us) locale, I guess...
Hi Felipe,
Thanks for the feedback. This issue has been kind of solved by Gunnar
for ubuntu, for given selections of locales (comment #115).
The issue is that now I installed Mint, and realized that the fixes are
not spread to other ubuntu based distributions.
I still do not understand how can
Please see bug #228077 for information on the report upstream rejected
for gnome-control-center.
Leandro, I don't have a US keyboard anymore (nor did a read all the
comments here), but if this is still an issue, I don't think a fix will
appear anytime soon.
Good luck on this.
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This is a duplicate of bug #228077 (which was reported some two years
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This one, however, draw much more attention than the first one, and has
some attempts on patches. For these reasons I am marking #228077 (and
its other dups) as duplicate of this one.
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Hi Gunnar,
thank you very much for your prompt feedback.
No, that file is not present in Mint.
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@Leandro: Let's talk here to begin with.
Linux Mint is not Ubuntu. The file which should make it sufficient to
set pt_BR.UTF-8 or pt_PT.UTF-8 as the regional formats locale is:
/etc/profile.d/cedilla-portuguese.sh
(belonging to the language-selector-common package)
Is that file present on
My locale was incorrect, although I never changed it manually.
Adding:
export LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8
to ~/.profile
restored the correct behavior. Where should this be reported now?
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The workaround described in comment #115 does not work either (generating and
exporting the LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF-8)
I think that we need to face the fact that the only definitive solution
is to have a keyboard layout that displays the desired behavior
independently on the other non-correlated
Adding
export XCOMPOSEFILE=/usr/share/X11/locale/pt_BR.UTF-8/Compose
to ~/.profile and restarting didn't do the trick either.
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That is, choosing the regional settings as "portuguese, Brazil, UTF-8"
does not result in the correct behavior of the '+c combination anymore.
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I have installed Mint 18.2 now, and the problem seems to be back.
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cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of
Hi, the answer is simple. This layout treats the cedilla as an accent,
and it is available with AltGr+= :D
Using this you can use the cedilla wherever you want - Ç ç ş Ş ţ Ţ and
so forth.
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Wow, thanks. Got my ç back after what feels like a decade! Though AltGr
doesn't combine - it directly prints a ç. I personally don't need the other
characters with cedillas but am still curious as to what the quirk is.
Thank you again,
Nadine
On Feb 1, 2016 7:56 PM, "TC"
@anacaona: Even if this issue has been handled with Portugese users in
mind at first hand, the description in comment #157 is applicable to any
language. In your case I suppose that editing the ~/.profile file is the
way to go.
However, comment #157 refers to how it will work in Ubuntu 16.04. In
Hello, I am using US International with dead keys on Ubuntu 15.10, and I
am using it to write in French (but I prefer my OS is English) This
issue is still open for me. I would very much appreciate any suggestions
toward a resolution.
Many thanks in advance,
Nadine
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Thanks to everyone and a special thanks to Gunnar who helped to put some
order in our despair for this fix which seemed small but, as we all can
see, was spreaded through several packages.
P.S.: the duplicated bugs could be closed as well.
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Thanks, Raphael.
On 2015-12-29 14:35, Raphael das Neves Calvo wrote:
> P.S.: the duplicated bugs could be closed as well.
For just the reason those bugs are marked as duplicates, there is no
need to update their statuses. So I think we are done now. :)
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* data/cedilla-portuguese.sh, setup.py:
Make it easier for pt_PT users to type ccedilla (ç) in the same
manner as it works for pt_BR users since version 0.142
As from ibus 1.5.11-1ubuntu1, ibus honors X11 compose files. With this
change, together with the pending language-selector commit, all
Portuguese users can type ccedilla easily in xenial.
If either the display language or the regional formats setting is a
Portuguese option, '+c will automatically
What a fun discussion.
Just a reminder... '+c has always been ç since MS-DOS, in US
International Keyboard... MS-DOS, PC-DOS, Basic, Apple, old computers,
Wordstar, Lotus123, Windows, OS/2, Unix in general... somewhere around
Ubuntu 7, or Fedora 5 it started coming as an accented ć, was fixed in
I will try a new installation, using a newer ISO . I'll do what you suggest if
the problem persists .
Thanks for your support .
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@Walter: I don't have that problem. Are you on Unity or one of the
flavours? Can you please run the locale command in a terminal window and
post the output here?
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If that is the case, it's indeed a serious bug, which you should report
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Ok, Gunnar. Thank you!
But I didn't change the value of LANG manually.
It was set automaticly by the installation, using setup interface, which
continues to be a problem.
Do you agree?
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Here it is:
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=pt_BR:pt:en
LANGUAGE=pt_BR
LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_TIME=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="pt_BR:pt:en"
And yes, I'm using Unity installed on a second partition from Wily Beta setup
installer.
Unity 7.3.2+15.10.20151002.20ubuntu1
Ubuntu 15.10 amd64
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Your locale is broken, which explains it. You need to change the LANG
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Title:
cedilla appears as
I have im-config 0.29-1ubuntu6 installed.
And accented c (ć) still appears instead of ç when typing 'c
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Is this a kind of regression?
This bug was reported 5 years ago and apparently had been corrected. But it
suddenly returned in 15.10.
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On 2015-10-13 13:25, Walter Ribeiro wrote:
> This bug ... suddenly returned in 15.10.
Can you please elaborate.
Do you possibly have im-config 0.29-1ubuntu5 installed? In that case you
should update your system.
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Status: Confirmed => Fix Released
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This bug was fixed in the package libx11 - 2:1.6.3-1ubuntu2
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* debian/patches/016_add_pt_PT.UTF-8_Compose.diff:
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(LP: #518056).
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Title:
cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
This also affect me as Brazilian.
Looking forward to have this old odd behavior gone.
I would fork if I had any experience in this kind of development.
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On 2015-09-08 16:20, Felipe Lauksas wrote:
> This also affect me as Brazilian.
> Looking forward to have this old odd behavior gone.
It's not clear to me what you are waiting for, Felipe. As regards
Brazilian Portuguese, the current behaviour is described in e.g. comment
#132 of this bug report.
For Emacs on a qwerty keyboard, it is possible to type the ç by typing
right compose + ,
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cedilla appears as
It's difficult for brazilians to get used to Ubuntu since such a simple
thing as typing is compromised. Never heard about ' + c resulting in ć.
This is not observed in other Linux distros, OSX and Windows.
This strange behaviour is intentional, but there is also bug which makes
harder for us to
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Comment #124 above was a request for comments at the mailing list for
the Ubuntu Portugal team:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-pt/2015-April/thread.html#10723
The replies I got there, together with the comments on this bug report,
are sufficient as a base for making it work the same
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@leandromartinez98 your solution works also to IntelliJ, Webstorm and
Emacs after the restart, thank you. Will this bug be fixed natively to
next versions of Ubuntu?
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On 2015-04-23 19:13, Felipe Micaroni Lalli wrote:
Will this bug be fixed natively to next versions of Ubuntu?
It's not clear to me what you mean.
As regards Brazilian Portuguese, there is nothing left to do, as far as
I can tell. There are three ways to enable the '+c = ç behavior in
Ubuntu
Thank you Felipe for your feedback. Actually it is Gunnar's solution :-).
Anyway, the idea at this point is that
in the next releases that will be the behavior if the user sets the interface
language or the language settings
to Portuguese (with the US-International - dead keys keyboard).
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cedilla appears as accented c (ć
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config
Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix
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Title:
cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
@Felipe: I have now tested the fix of Post 115 and it works in Emacs as well in
a new instalation of Linux Mint.
If you confirm that it does not work for you, please let us know the details.
(Please remember setting the keyboard
to US-International with dead keys).
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In Emacs inside terminal (with the option -nw) it works very fine! But
not in Emacs windowed version.
GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.9)
of 2014-06-06 on brownie, modified by Debian
My system is a Xubuntu:
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor
Hi Felipe,
I tried it on the windowed emacs, and it worked. I think you need to logout and
login again so that the new
option applies to all instances of your session.
Leandro.
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I have prepared for supporting pt_PT in the same manner as pt_BR, and
when doing so I learned some new stuff.
The default input method framework in Ubuntu is IBus, and as long as
IBus is enabled, it's actually IBus which turns '+c to ç when LC_CTYPE
is pt_BR.UTF-8. Only when IBus is disabled, the
Unfortunately I tested all solutions in this long thread and it does not
work in all cases. For example, for me, in Emacs I still get ć instead ç
and in IntelliJ and Webstorm the same. I have to let a gedit opened,
type there and then copy/paste, what is a mess! This fix have to
rollback exactly
@Felipe
Venting out frustrations will not help in getting the bug fixed.
Let us try to be more factual.
You came up with a test case.
Please give your feedback in an orderly way so Canonical and the community
can help.
What version of Ubuntu were you testing.
Which sw did you test and what was the
@raphael-calvo Your tears are delicious.
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Concerning the pt_PT: Although we do not have manifestations from Portuguese
people, we can be quite certain (as we know the Portuguese language :-) ) that
the fix will be useful for them as well. Concerning other latin languages:
Spanish, French, Italian, none of them have the acute-c
Dear Gunnar,
I think the LC_TYPE approach will solve much of the complains, because
I think most people installing Ubuntu will be physically located in
Brazil and will naturally choose the location as Brazil. If in that case
the cedilla will be typed as we expect it, that will be fine.
At the
Dear Gunnar,
Thank you very much, this is a great progress on this issue.
The brazilian community is very active for Ubuntu and other linux distros, and
flavours and forums
exist. I will do my best to pass the message, such that this solution becomes
heard over the many
other workarounds.
By
Hi Leandro!
On 2015-04-06 14:44, Leandro wrote:
I think the LC_TYPE approach will solve much of the complains,
because I think most people installing Ubuntu will be physically
located in Brazil and will naturally choose the location as Brazil.
If in that case the cedilla will be typed as we
One more thing...
In the glory days of DR-DOS/MS-DOS, if I am not mistaken, there was no
keyboard setup specially made for Brazil regarding US International
keyboard. It was a setup for Latin languages, I.e., every country that has
a latin language was affected (French, portuguese, Italian...)
Gunnar,
My guess here is based on history but maybe I am wrong
The reason we Brazilians use the US international keyboard so much is
because in the '70s and '80s we didn't have a national industry to cope
with our internal demands for products related to computers. Almost every
single
We can find some evidence of what I am saying here about the Latin Code
page for MS-DOS.
http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/KEYB
Here follows a screenshot of the MS-DOS character set setup a.k.a.
codepage).
Note that in the keyboard code in Brazil is Empty... That is because on
that time in history
Thanks for the additional info, Raphael!
Both Leandro's research and your input indeed indicate that we should
make the same change for pt_PT, but it would be good if someone living
in Portugal could comment on it first, so we don't upload something
based on speculation.
Are you Brazilian guys
Gunnar,
I do agree we must have input from someone from Portugal to validate
everything we are saying...
But, even though I especulated about Portugal history the other post with
MS-DOS configuration data is solid data and can be corroborated with a
simple web research.
Regards.
On Fri, Apr 3,
Gunnar
Thank you very much for your time trying to solve this bug with the
community.
It is really important for us in Brazil and for Ubuntu as well.
Best regards man!
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Gunnar,
I do agree we must have input from someone
Thanks for your comments re pt_PT, Leandro.
As long as we consider setting LC_CTYPE, in any of the ways mentioned in
comment #96, a fix, it should be noted that '+c results in ç
irrespective of which keyboard layout you use. In other words, the
changed behavior is not conditioned by the use of an
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Status: New
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To make it easier to keep discussing this issue, I committed a change to
language-selector, which hopefully is a step in the right direction.
** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Medium
** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Fix Committed
@Raphael: Of course we want a consistent behavior in all applications.
Since you mention pt_PT, it should be noted that the commit I just made
affects pt_BR only. Possibly there is a reason to do the same for pt_PT,
but I think it needs to be discussed first. Added a libX11 task to
remember it.
This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.141
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* data/cedilla-brazil.sh:
Make it easier for Brazilian Portuguese users to type ccedilla (ç)
- partial solution to LP: #518056.
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On 2015-04-01 19:24, Rico Tzschichholz wrote:
@gunnarhj: The syntax of cedilla-brazil.sh is erroneous.
Ouch! It was not a syntax error, really, but still a stupid error. :(
Fixed in language-selector 0.142.
Thanks for pointing it out!
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Concerning the pt_PT: The portuguese from Portugal, although it has its
differences relative to brazilian
portuguese, has the same accents and it also requires the cedilla the same way,
so I suspected that they
had the same problem. I checked, then, the existence of the same tipe of claim
in
1) Windows - US International + Br.PT - '+c = ç
2) Windows - US International + EN.US - '+c = 'c
3) Ubuntu - US International + Br.PT - '+c = ć
4) Ubuntu - US International + EN.US - '+c = 'c
My expectation would be to have the behavior #1 == #3 across the whole
environment, i.e., terminal, gedit,
On 2015-03-30 22:37, Leandro wrote:
I see! No, unfortunately we also need the accute dead keys for á, é, í,
ó and ú.
I suspected that.
The key (phisically speaking) must be the same. That is, 'a = á, and
'c = ç
In that case I don't think that an additional keyboard layout is the way
to go.
On 2015-03-31 17:15, Leandro wrote:
First, I tried to apply the pt_BR.UTF-8 locale (using export
LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF8) but the language pack was not installed,
therefore the workaround would only work after installing the
language pack, probably that will create the same kind of confusion
Let me add: The reason why setting LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF-8 works is the
file /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_BR.UTF-8/Compose which belongs to the
libx11-data package.
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Uhm... I am not sure if that actually works as it should.
First, I tried to apply the pt_BR.UTF-8 locale (using export
LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF8) but the language pack was not installed,
therefore the workaround would only work after installing the language pack,
probably that will create the
same
Thank you Gunnar for the explanation.
Indeed, adding export LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF-8 to ~/.profile worked. It seems
that the combination
of sudo locale-gen pt_BR.UTF-8 and that works nicely and that it is a nice
workaround.
I don't understand yet exactly how this can become a defintive solution.
On 31/03/2015 18:52, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
For me it works in the terminal, in gedit, in LibreOffice, and in HTML
forms in Firefox.
I can now add that it works in Skype (a qt application) too. I have
tested it successfully in trusty, utopic and vivid.
Btw, my selected IM framework is IBus,
On 31/03/2015 23:37, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
Just like you I think it would be more natural to create an
alternative keyboard layout which could be selected in Text Entry. I
just don't know if and if so how it could be accomplished.
To clarify: As you know, I figured out how to add an
@Gunnar
first of all, thank you for your (weekend :) time and good will with
this issue. And yes, of course, this can be considered an answer. Now I
know where to start searching for the changes that affected the old
behaviour.
Unfortunately, I cannot test your PPA because my machine (this) is
@Leandro: I see that you have Ubuntu 14.04, so this is what you should
do: open Software Updates, select Other Software, highlight the
cedilla-test item by clicking it and then click the Edit... button. In
the new window, state utopic as the Distribution instead of trusty. I
added an attachment
Dear Gunnar,
Certainly I will. I will do that in the following days. My only doubt is that
all my systems were
already modified with all those workarounds for the cedilla. I am not sure if I
will be able to verify that the PPA
works as it should.
Thank you very much, this is the way to the
xkb-data is architecture independent, so i386, amd64, etc. doesn't
matter. As regards different Ubuntu versions, I have successfully
installed and run the xkb-data package in my PPA on trusty, utopic, and
vivid installs. So even if it was built in utopic, you can install and
test it in trusty if
xkb-data is architecture independent,...
Great! This makes things easier for everybody.
I'll try again late, after work, and share here. (I've tried with apt-get and,
of course, it didn't found the repo. )
If there proves to be a consensus on this approach to deal with the issue -
possibly
Dear Gunnar,
I tried installing the package from PPA, but although I can add the PPA
correctly,
I get messages like when updating the database:
Failed to fetch
http://ppa.launchpad.net/gunnarhj/cedilla-test/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
404 Not Found
Failed to fetch
Dear Gunnar,
I have installed a virtual box of Mint 17 - XFCE and tested your ppa,
and it worked perfectly.
This is fantastic. Thank you very much. I hope this gets into the main
distributions!
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Glad to hear that you appreciate it, Leandro.
I'd like to clarify the nature of the change. Basically I 'stole' the
dead key, which in the English (US, international with dead keys)
layout is used for typing á, é, ć, etc., and converted it to a dead key
for typing ȩ, ç, etc. The key is marked
Hello Gunnar,
I see! No, unfortunately we also need the accute dead keys for á, é, í,
ó and ú.
The key (phisically speaking) must be the same. That is, 'a = á, and
'c = ç
(We also have other accents, such as à, ã, ê, etc., but all other accents work
perfectly in the US-Intl with dead keys
In an attempt to make some progress on this issue, I have uploaded a
modified version of the xkeyboard-config package to my PPA at
https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/cedilla-test
It adds the keyboard layout English (US, international - cedilla). If
you install xkb-data from my PPA
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Could someone check out the ibus theory that I mentioned. I am currently
without a computer... Just mobile.
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015, 13:50 Leandro 518...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I have reported the bug again, at site and package suggested by Gunnar:
I have reported the bug again, at site and package suggested by Gunnar:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89795
Leandro.
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Dear J. S. Lopes and Gunnar,
I don't know the technical issues related to this problem.
On the other side, I have already reported an upstream bug back in July
2013. Nobody has read it.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709569
Leandro.
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #709569
@gui ambros
Your workaround works :) . Smoothly. This little cedilla has become a PITA in
Ubuntu. By the way, I'm running UbuntuStudio 14.04, up-to-date. What we need to
do to solve this? I have some time. Maybe you, gui ambros, maybe Leandro knows
what must be done. I'll follow this thread.
** Also affects: xkeyboard-config via
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89795
Importance: Unknown
Status: Unknown
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