[transfer-dev] Re: Once and for all - NULLABLE fields

2008-10-15 Thread Bob Silverberg
... cfoutput#myObj.getQty_override()#/cfoutput I still get 0 as the output when the value is NULL or 0 in the database. What am I still missing? Muchas gracias in advance. - Steve -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: generate transfer config files and multiple xml

2008-11-14 Thread Bob Silverberg
there, but will have to look at it more closely when I do to see if it is accurate or not. Dan -- Dan O'Keefe -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com

[transfer-dev] Re: Any volunteers to get keep the blog posts documentation up to date?

2008-11-14 Thread Bob Silverberg
anyway? :oD I know you can do it! You have the power! Mark -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support

[transfer-dev] Re: Any volunteers to get keep the blog posts documentation up to date?

2008-11-14 Thread Bob Silverberg
it sorted. Mark On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Bob Silverberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Paul and Qasim. I'll be in touch about coordinating the effort. Cheers, Bob On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Qasim Rasheed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can help Bob with keeping the wiki up

[transfer-dev] Re: Keeping blog posts up to date

2008-11-15 Thread Bob Silverberg
to utilize the wealth of resources we now have for this. Thanks, Bob On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 3:35 AM, Kevin Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Can I help? I am reading a lot about Transfer at the moment. Kevin -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: Plain Ol' Transfer Objects (Using a Transfer Object Without a Database)

2008-11-19 Thread Bob Silverberg
how to do what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions

[transfer-dev] Re: Plain Ol' Transfer Objects (Using a Transfer Object Without a Database)

2008-11-19 Thread Bob Silverberg
at the same time. Should be interesting. Laterz, J On Nov 19, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Bob Silverberg wrote: I like this idea. I can see how some might see it as a misuse of the ORM, but it seems like a very practical approach to me, and keeps things consistent (i.e., all Business Objects

[transfer-dev] Re: Transfer and coldspring

2008-11-19 Thread Bob Silverberg
bean id=transfer class=transfer.com.Transfer factory-bean=transferFactory factory-method=getTransfer /bean /beans Is that a reasonable way to go ? cheers, Chris -- Paul Marcotte Fancy Bread - in the heart or in the head? http://www.fancybread.com -- Bob

[transfer-dev] Re: The ManyToOne TransferObject is not persisted.

2008-11-22 Thread Bob Silverberg
again! -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions-on-transfer You received this message because you

[transfer-dev] Re: cross-database join question

2008-11-25 Thread Bob Silverberg
for *every row* in the local table, which obviously scales like...well, something that doesn't scale. Jaime -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com

[transfer-dev] Re: the method 'getID' could not be found.......

2008-11-26 Thread Bob Silverberg
:\CFExtensions\transfer1_1\com\TransferObjectProxy.cfc. Any help is greatly appreciated Qasim -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how

[transfer-dev] Re: Anyone doing / soon to be doing Flex work with Transfer?

2008-11-28 Thread Bob Silverberg
+ Flex, I'd be more than happy to spend some time and talk you through what I've been doing. Mark -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions

[transfer-dev] Re: Cache syncing between applications on one server

2008-11-28 Thread Bob Silverberg
to do what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions-on-transfer

[transfer-dev] Re: Global Decorators

2008-12-04 Thread Bob Silverberg
Marcotte Fancy Bread - in the heart or in the head? http://www.fancybread.com -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask

[transfer-dev] Re: Iterating Transfer Object

2008-12-06 Thread Bob Silverberg
to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to do what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama) -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev

[transfer-dev] Re: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Line 1: Incorrect syntax near '.'

2009-01-20 Thread Bob Silverberg
,arguments.is_active) / /cfif cfif structKeyExists(arguments,is_logged_in) and len (arguments.is_logged_in) cfset tQuery.setParam(is_logged_in,arguments.is_logged_in) / /cfif cfreturn getTransfer().listByQuery(tQuery) / /cffunction Any ideas?? Thank you -- Bob

[transfer-dev] Re: how can i view the sql statement being executed?

2009-01-20 Thread Bob Silverberg
, so you can see your SQL output :oD Mark -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions-on-transfer You

[transfer-dev] Re: Rollback 'save()' methods using Transaction advise()?

2009-01-20 Thread Bob Silverberg
. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com W:www.compoundtheory.com -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions

[transfer-dev] Re: how can i view the sql statement being executed?

2009-01-21 Thread Bob Silverberg
Bioggio Switzerland +41 76 303 4477 na...@carbonzero.ch -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions

[transfer-dev] Re: Query.setParam() and t:queryparam type attribute

2009-02-02 Thread Bob Silverberg
in the t:queryparam tag without changing the inside of Transfer at all and would make dynamic TQL much easier, especially when refactoring and possibly changing property types (ex. from numeric to date). -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: manytoone on the table id column, not allowed?

2009-02-02 Thread Bob Silverberg
an exception upon validating the xml? Thanks, Henry -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com W:www.compoundtheory.com -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com

[transfer-dev] Re: TransferObject.cfc component cannot be accessed from ..

2009-02-03 Thread Bob Silverberg
_locals.temptemplate.addenhanced_template_theme(_locals.theme) Does anyone know what the cause of the error - failure might be? -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer

[transfer-dev] Re: setting null values. What do ppl use for strings?

2009-02-11 Thread Bob Silverberg
. but if is a valid value, suggestions on a suitable value to represent NULL for a string? somehow [[BOOHOOHOO]] (or similar) doesn't quite rock my socks... -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group

[transfer-dev] Re: Column name appears more than once on save

2009-02-11 Thread Bob Silverberg
= (param 6) I don't get where this extra systemid column is coming from. This object is a child in a one-to-many relationship, but that should not be coming into play here as I am just working with the identityfield object in this case. -- Josh -- Bob Silverberg

[transfer-dev] Re: Autoincredmening a non-primary key field.

2009-03-03 Thread Bob Silverberg
IDENTITY_INSERT is set to OFF Can you guys offer any suggestions as to what is causing this and how it might be solved? Presumably this is caused by Transfer trying to inset a value into the auto-incrementing field? is that correct? Cheers, Rob -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: Single Table Inheritance and Caching

2009-03-04 Thread Bob Silverberg
the ORM to load an instance of that type, or iterate over all the subclasses asking the ORM for Bob for each of them until we find Bob. None of this is onerous in practice, but it's definitely part of the impedance mismatch. Jaime On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Bob Silverberg

[transfer-dev] Re: Single Table Inheritance and Caching

2009-03-04 Thread Bob Silverberg
struggle to really abstract database tables into collections in ColdFusion, so while thinking in terms of collection semantics is really useful while modelling, the practical implementation in CF is often quite different. Jaime On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Bob Silverberg bob.silverb

[transfer-dev] Re: Have a One to Many relationship while still being able to query by the child foreign key

2009-03-07 Thread Bob Silverberg
own list query yourself outside of Transfer. Part of the point of Transfer is that you're dealing with Objects and their relationships, not tables and foreign keys. So trying to go behind it's back and do things like using foreign key columns directly is discouraged. -- Bob Silverberg

[transfer-dev] Re: Modelling a map

2009-03-10 Thread Bob Silverberg
). As always advice gratefully received. Thanks in advance :) -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions

[transfer-dev] Re: Modelling a map

2009-03-10 Thread Bob Silverberg
(or myself in the future) can quickly see what properties the User can have. - John -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask

[transfer-dev] Re: ManyToMany Relationships order property not working

2009-03-12 Thread Bob Silverberg
Oops, that should have read Although I would have expected Transfer to throw an error if the OrderNum were not in the Bilder table On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Bob Silverberg bob.silverb...@gmail.comwrote: In which table is the column OrderNum? I'm guessing that maybe it's

[transfer-dev] Re: Trouble with Cache settings

2009-03-12 Thread Bob Silverberg
it, cleared the transfer generated files and restarted the server. No go. I must be making a dumb mistake, I just am not seeing it. Thanks in advance ... -- Nando M. Breiter The CarbonZero Project CP 234 6934 Bioggio Switzerland +41 76 303 4477 na...@carbonzero.ch -- Bob Silverberg

[transfer-dev] Re: Trouble with Cache settings

2009-03-12 Thread Bob Silverberg
, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Bob Silverberg bob.silverb...@gmail.comwrote: Did you try changing the order of the elements? E.g., cache class=Herb accessedminutestimeout value=30 / scope type=application / /cache Looking at the xsd, it looks like maybe

[transfer-dev] Re: Decorator after populate method?

2009-03-13 Thread Bob Silverberg
about doing a good ol' cfquery to pull out the values from the db and just populate that way. Would certainly be quick. -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http

[transfer-dev] Re: transfer and illudium

2009-03-19 Thread Bob Silverberg
in as well. Thanks, Jim- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask

[transfer-dev] Re: cascadeSave with a twist of manytomany

2009-03-20 Thread Bob Silverberg
object, add a manytomany property, then do a cascadesave on the whole thing? Thanks! Jonathan -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev

[transfer-dev] Re: Decorator dependencies from TDOBeanInjectorObserver going missing on restart

2009-03-21 Thread Bob Silverberg
the Transfer cache, restarts Coldspring and my Model-glue apps/ etc). Sometimes it takes a couple of tries though to correct it. Anyone seen this before? Any thoughts about where to poke? Brian, Mr. Edge Case -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: Date type is defaulting to today?

2009-03-22 Thread Bob Silverberg
/property /object **ENVIRONMENT** Transfer 1.6 CF 7 SQL Server Hope someone can help. I'll keep searching. Cheers Matthew -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http

[transfer-dev] Re: Date type is defaulting to today?

2009-03-23 Thread Bob Silverberg
out this configure() hack now. Cheers Matthew On Mar 23, 4:14 pm, Bob Silverberg bob.silverb...@gmail.com wrote: See here: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/browse_thread/thread/fb2a... In a nutshell, that is the expected behaviour. Use configure

[transfer-dev] Re: Duplicate generated methods

2009-04-23 Thread Bob Silverberg
/ /object On the coupon_restriction table, I'm getting a duplicate function error. Basically, Transfer is generating multiple getParentCoupon... functions. Any ideas? System specs: -Transfer 1.0 -CF7 -MSSQL 2005 -XP -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: null values from checkbox

2009-05-01 Thread Bob Silverberg
something, since no matter what I do it won't update from 1 to 0 when i edit the record and leave the checkbox blank for the edit. -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http

[transfer-dev] Re: null values from checkbox

2009-05-01 Thread Bob Silverberg
missing something or could this be a bug? On May 1, 2:31 pm, Bob Silverberg bob.silverb...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of things: 1. You've specified nullable=false, as well as nullvalue=0. I believe that the nullable=false will make Transfer ignore the nullvalue=0, so either you need

[transfer-dev] Re: null values from checkbox

2009-05-01 Thread Bob Silverberg
the property options do. On May 1, 3:34 pm, Bob Silverberg bob.silverb...@gmail.com wrote: Did you look at my second point? I think that's probably where you're getting caught. I only mentioned the first point (about nullable) because it was an obvious logic problem. To try

[transfer-dev] Re: Database function calls?

2009-05-27 Thread Bob Silverberg
(),                now(),                [...]) I really don't want to start tinkering with the DB and adding triggers right now so I think I may just move forward using decorators till I get more comfortable with another alternate solution. -Cameron On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Bob Silverberg

[transfer-dev] Re: Update multiple records

2009-06-02 Thread Bob Silverberg
of records in a table. This is easy in straight SQL but how do you do it with transfer. eg. Update tableName set defaultRec = Y where user = x Thanks. -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions

[transfer-dev] Re: Transfer ORM and table based objects

2009-06-15 Thread Bob Silverberg
the start, Transfer makes alot of sense. With a strangely normalized DB that's not designed just for this one application, I am finding it difficult to adapt Transfer to suit my needs. -Cameron -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: Transfer ORM and table based objects

2009-06-15 Thread Bob Silverberg
benefit. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: camer...@gmail.com -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions

[transfer-dev] Re: Transfer ORM and table based objects

2009-06-15 Thread Bob Silverberg
when I first started working with Transfer, but it's pretty easy to create a routine that will automatically populate M2Os for you. -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http

[transfer-dev] Re: Filter null values

2009-07-28 Thread Bob Silverberg
. -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions-on-transfer You received this message because you

[transfer-dev] Re: Filter null values

2009-07-28 Thread Bob Silverberg
to the map. Of course that filtered all records with the string NULL as their FieldName value, which is not what I want. :P Pedro. On Jul 28, 4:40 pm, Bob Silverberg bob.silverb...@gmail.com wrote: Good question.  Did you try it?  What happened? On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:27 AM, pedroblpe

[transfer-dev] Re: Transfer Presentation

2009-07-29 Thread Bob Silverberg
-to-the-DFWCFUG Thanks Qasim -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions-on-transfer You received this message

[transfer-dev] Re: options for recordset paging

2009-07-31 Thread Bob Silverberg
Developer Knowledge work requires both autonomy and accountability. -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support

[transfer-dev] Re: cascade delete

2009-08-10 Thread Bob Silverberg
to=review column=productId/                collection type=array                        order property=dateReviewed order=desc/                /collection        /onetomany /object -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T:http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W:www.compoundtheory.com -- Bob

[transfer-dev] Re: handling boolean values

2009-08-26 Thread Bob Silverberg
and passing them directly into the manager from the handlers. yuck. -- Jim Rising Serial Entrepreneur Software Engineer Web Developer Knowledge work requires both autonomy and accountability. -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: handling boolean values

2009-08-26 Thread Bob Silverberg
://www.twitter.com/neurotic W:www.compoundtheory.com -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T:http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W:www.compoundtheory.com -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: handling boolean values

2009-08-26 Thread Bob Silverberg
: www.compoundtheory.com -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com -- Jim Rising Serial Entrepreneur Software Engineer Web Developer Knowledge work requires both autonomy and accountability. -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com

[transfer-dev] Re: handling boolean values

2009-08-27 Thread Bob Silverberg
Engineer Web Developer Knowledge work requires both autonomy and accountability. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Bob Silverberg bob.silverb...@gmail.com wrote: OK, well if they're nullable you could use configure() to default the property to NULL, and then check for nulls in your method

[transfer-dev] Re: manytomany link table modifier

2009-09-01 Thread Bob Silverberg
not in the right place on this? -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions-on-transfer You received

[transfer-dev] Re: Transfer Cache Memory Management Strategies

2009-09-04 Thread Bob Silverberg
actually turn it off to completely disable it? We experienced issues both with Profiling and Memory Tracking on and off, but like you suggested, maybe the monitor was completely disabled? On Sep 3, 10:50 pm, Bob Silverberg bob.silverb...@gmail.com wrote: Were you perchance running the server monitor

[transfer-dev] Re: getDataSource. What Am I missing?

2009-09-30 Thread Bob Silverberg
/Writing_Decorators.cfm#Access_to_the_Datasource I should be able to call getDataSource() and get DS infor from this for a custom query I am writing. I'm using Transer 1.1, and that function isn't there. Am I missing something or is some information incorrect somewhere? Cheers, David -- Bob

[transfer-dev] Re: Object Definition file names

2009-10-20 Thread Bob Silverberg
: www.compoundtheory.com -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions-on-transfer You received this message because you

[transfer-dev] Re: Relationships maintained with a join table

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Silverberg
for me to drill down using the supplied o2m/m2m methods. Is this true? Or perhaps you can't have an o2m and m2m using the same FK? I think read that somewhere So... I wouldn't mind having 2 columns with the same data in them (same FKs). -- Jason Durham -- Jason Durham -- Bob

[transfer-dev] Re: copy transfer object to another transfer object

2009-11-05 Thread Bob Silverberg
autonomy and accountability. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com -- Jim Rising Serial Entrepreneur Software Engineer Web Developer Knowledge work requires both autonomy and accountability. -- Bob Silverberg

Re: [transfer-dev] Transfer v.s. CF 9 ORM

2009-11-21 Thread Bob Silverberg
options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev?hl=en -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com -- Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions-on-transfer You received this message

Re: [transfer-dev] Does save() check the object is dirty / persisted?

2009-12-16 Thread Bob Silverberg
I'm pretty sure that Transfer won't save them unless it thinks their dirty, but I could be wrong about that. It would be pretty easy to test, though. Just try it and observe the SQL that is generated. ;-) Sent from my iPhone On 2009-12-16, at 5:38 PM, Clarkee21 clarke...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [transfer-dev] Re: Ehcache provider intermittent error - Element OBJECT is undefined in LOCAL.

2010-01-26 Thread Bob Silverberg
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to transfer-dev-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev?hl=en -- Bob Silverberg www.silverwareconsulting.com Hands-on ColdFusion ORM Training @ cf.Objective() 2010

Re: [transfer-dev] Cannot set properties on factory-bean result

2010-03-06 Thread Bob Silverberg
Did you mean to send this to the Coldspring list? Sent from my iPhone On 2010-03-06, at 7:06 PM, Elliott Sprehn espr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to set properties on a bean that's returned from a factory- bean. Here's a simple a test case: beans bean id=Factory class=testing.Factory

Re: [transfer-dev] Re: Dirty read problem SOLVED

2010-08-17 Thread Bob Silverberg
An easier solution is to clone() your Transfer object before you populate it. Then the dirty data never gets into the cache. Sent from my iPhone On 2010-08-17, at 7:53 PM, pedrobl pe...@bezunartea.net wrote: OK, after reading again the documentation on caching, I thought it'd smart to