[Trisquel-users] synaptic troubles

2012-10-17 Thread donh824
Hi all trisquel has been working great on a ssd, but when installed to a 7200rpm rotary sata3 drive (other hardware the same) (with the same trisquel 5.5 64bit iso image(md5sum checked)) synaptic package manager just flashes when run from the icon, when it is run from the command line it

[Trisquel-users] Re : synaptic troubles

2012-10-17 Thread magicbanana
There was a weird bug when Trisquel 5.5 was released and, as far as I remember, this was provoking this exact error when Synaptic was executed. The fix was to disable (and then re-enable?) the visual alerts in the accessibility menu.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A FSF supported project needs help: mediagoblin

2012-10-17 Thread onpon4
What response do you expect? We don't like nonfree software. We don't think it should exist. That's why we use a completely free distro, Trisquel, and not other distros like Ubuntu or Linux Mint or even Fedora. Knowing this, how do you expect to convince anyone here that a decision is

[Trisquel-users] Spammers Trolls Punishment Policy

2012-10-17 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
Put spammers trolls email addresses on a list of shame, on a webpage or text file for spamming spiders to find. he he he.

[Trisquel-users] Re : A FSF supported project needs help: mediagoblin

2012-10-17 Thread magicbanana
It is true that you you are repeating yourself. Something else that is true is that you never answer the points we make. We talk freedom to users. You always answer money to developers (even at the expense of the users' freedoms). I start to wonder if you only are an extreme troll or if you

Re: [Trisquel-users] A FSF supported project needs help: mediagoblin

2012-10-17 Thread tegskywalker
I'll be blunt with you in saying that the rights of the developer and user should both be respected and not just the user. It is true that GPL code forces contribution of source code and can benefit the developer if that is their angle. No one should be forced by a license written by an

Re: [Trisquel-users] Midori makes internet think you run Safari and Mac

2012-10-17 Thread Andresmp
Humm it might not be a bug. it is a requirement for midori not to be discriminated from the web.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member?

2012-10-17 Thread Andresmp
Done: thought that I needed special access for the wiki. thanks Sir Grant!

[Trisquel-users] Re : What would make you become an associate member?

2012-10-17 Thread ben
Make sure you add yourself to the bottom of the above wiki page. I just added myself as well.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread aliasbody
Thank you (moilami) for posting this :D I was about the post almost the same question (I wanted to stop relying on Ubuntu LTS for my personal server and I was looking for an alternative, with the idea that, if I can't find a good Free alternative, I would go for Parabola as a Server (like I

[Trisquel-users] Cool hack for netbook users

2012-10-17 Thread alonivtsan
Netbooks are light and have long battery life but suffer from very low resolution which makes using some applications cumbersome. There is a simple hack using xrandr which gets you a higher resolution. First determine which resolution you want. I wanted 1280x750 which is 1.25x1.25 the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Cool hack for netbook users

2012-10-17 Thread alonivtsan
My xrandr actually look like this: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 600, maximum 4096 x 4096 LVDS1 connected 1024x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 220mm x 129mm 1024x600 60.0*+ 65.0 800x60060.3 56.2 640x48059.9 VGA1 disconnected

[Trisquel-users] LibreJS style mentality and extension for web fonts?

2012-10-17 Thread tegskywalker
As we all know, there was the article by RMS about the JavaScript Trap and some extensions like LibreJS that block non-free JavaScript code. With that in mind, has there been similar thought about web fonts that are downloaded from the web? I know they aren't pure code like JavaScript, but

[Trisquel-users] Re : A FSF supported project needs help: mediagoblin

2012-10-17 Thread magicbanana
It is *not* true that GPL code forces contribution of source code. It is a freedom. Not an obligation. Has anybody ever come to you and say you use the Linux kernel under the GPL license, you are forced to contribute to its development? You keep on talking about donations. Again: the vast

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreJS style mentality and extension for web fonts?

2012-10-17 Thread Michał Masłowski
With that in mind, has there been similar thought about web fonts that are downloaded from the web? I had some thoughts and I cannot find my notes about it. Other font-related writings (like the FSF recommending GPL-incompatible licenses for them, or the issue of font sources) don't suggest

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread viniciussm
Debian is optionally free. You have the main repository which becomes enabled, the contrib repository (free software dependent on non-free software) which comes disabled, and the non-free repository, which is self explanatory, is also disabled. Their installation asks you if you want to

[Trisquel-users] Re : Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread magicbanana
If you do not enable the non-free repository, Debian GNU/Linux is 100% free software (including the kernel)... but you may want to enable this repository because, as far as I know, it contains some packages that most people consider free, notably the documentation under the GNU Free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread aliasbody
I installed Debian 6, updated it (only 1 update available), and didn't enabled the contrib and the non-free Debian repository. But I have to admit... don't know if it is because of good choices from Debian, or because of the outdated packages but.. it is using 110Mb of RAM on my Virtual

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread moilami
No probs, and be free to derail and hijack as much as you want threads started by me. I am a child of Usenet/Sfnet in my Internet life, hence I am not bothered at all who talks what and where. In Sfnet someone started a topic, some people maybe talked about the topic but usually very quicly

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread aliasbody
Hum.. I know understand the real problem to not be approved by the FSF... It is a little bit confusing indeed :S... I installed it and I'm having a look at it, until now I'm very happy with the memory consumption being very low (even with a Graphical User Interface). Just one question. Is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread moilami
I think the standard text installer does not offer you a chance to install non-free software. Expert installer does do that. It asks if you want to enable non-free and contrib. For GNU manuals it could be best to install gnu manuals deb from gNewSense. They have made one, and by installing

Re: [Trisquel-users] Cool hack for netbook users

2012-10-17 Thread mikko . viinamaki
This hack is great, but video tearing is evident when watching videos. Is there any way to remove it? Try reading the manual page for your video driver and try the different parameters. Use lspci|grep VGA to see which card you have intel:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread moilami
Trisquel GNU/Linux is viable for a server. But for Sage in school, hmm, there can be more viable OS. Sucks it can be that way.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread aliasbody
You could provide support from home using SSL (that could be paid) :D (it is a solAution and you can win with this). But yes for a school that only wants a piece of software to work I think that something already configured is good for anytime. I mean, why update when everything is working

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread moilami
That is a very interesting concept and it could be the best way to go in theory. However, to know what should be upgraded because of a security bug fixed would be far too hard, and at some point some update could force other things you don't want to update to become updated, unless you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread moilami
Hmm, they are combining IT-resources of several schools. My school will be combined with some other school, there is no way that giant organisation would pay anything to me. I am about 99% sure that they will trash Sage alltogether not long after I am gone. That's why I hope I can do my best

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread aliasbody
It they organize themselves like they do here in the Portuguese Universities, then showing professors that the Software is good and it could be used instead of the non-free ones is a good value that they could share at the meetings they have when those very important meetings about what will

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreJS style mentality and extension for web fonts?

2012-10-17 Thread tegskywalker
I've actually been a fan of Lato recently from http://www.latofonts.com/lato-free-fonts/ which is totally free under an SIL license and Google hosts on their fonts service. It is the closest font that I could find that was free that almost matches Proxima Nova. Speaking of, I have been

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread Ivaylo Valkov
В 21:45 +0200 на 17.10.2012 (ср), aliasb...@gmail.com написа: Is Trisquel viable as a server? I mean, I don't mind I'm using it for a year. Haven't noticed a change (technical; in practice) compared to gNewSense and Debian before that for the same (as a purpose) server. updating it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread Ivaylo Valkov
В 21:47 +0200 на 17.10.2012 (ср), moil...@gmail.com написа: I think the standard text installer does not offer you a chance to install non-free software. Expert installer does do that. It asks if you want to enable non-free and contrib. I think if a network card requires non-free firmware,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread moilami
Exactly. That is what I am trying to show to them. I firmly believe Sage is better than Matlab for teaching mathematics. If they see that too, there is hope.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread aliasbody
Yes you are right I totally forgot the security section :s So then again, why not a Rolling Distribution ? I mean yes like moilami said this could break something at any time, and even if I wouldn't only want to update package X or package Y, those package X or package Y could update a

Re: [Trisquel-users] A FSF supported project needs help: mediagoblin

2012-10-17 Thread tegskywalker
This does create confusion for some people because while the LGPL is a copyleft license, it allows it to be used in proprietary software as long as the LGPL stays respected. Looking back, do you think Stallman and the FSF regret having the LGPL as an option?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread aliasbody
I actually agree with you on that at 200%. Every community I went trough: - Windows Community (Portuguese, French and English) - Ubuntu Community (Portuguese French and English) - Arch Linux Community (General) - Hackintosh Community (Yes I had my time xD) And a lots of others community that I'm

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread viniciussm
Outdated software probably helped. I doubt Wheezy will be as resource efficient, or even less if used with Gnome 3. I tried the alpha2 live cds for wheezy and it is way slower than squeeze. And what I really like about Trisquel and fully free distros is that they separate people who

Re: [Trisquel-users] A FSF supported project needs help: mediagoblin

2012-10-17 Thread onpon4
The LGPL is there for certain strategic purposes, as you should already know. There is no reason to regret its existence.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread Ivaylo Valkov
В 22:38 +0200 на 17.10.2012 (ср), aliasb...@gmail.com написа: could be not as stable or worse, with a big security whole, but in general that could be solved quickly... no ? Speaking for Debian, yes. For Ubuntu I don't know, because I've never dealt with it. Trisquel as Ubuntu derivative is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread aliasbody
I probably should consider Trisquel as viable option for Servers then... I've adapted myself very quickly to Ubuntu Server, and to be honest, even if I love ArchLinux (Parabola by the same mean) as an Operating System and for Server (because everything is Vanilla and we can do whatever we

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12-10-17 02:38 PM, aliasb...@gmail.com a écrit : Thank you (moilami) for posting this :D I was about the post almost the same question (I wanted to stop relying on Ubuntu LTS for my personal server and I was looking for an alternative, with the

[Trisquel-users] youtube-dl

2012-10-17 Thread ewlabonte
There's an old version of youtube-dl in the repositories. It doesn't work with most youtube videos. The latest version is 2012.10.09 and it works.

Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-dl

2012-10-17 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12-10-17 09:48 PM, ewlabo...@gmail.com a écrit : There's an old version of youtube-dl in the repositories. It doesn't work with most youtube videos. The latest version is 2012.10.09 and it works. Just: sudo youtube-dl -U F. -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Trisquel-users] The Adapteva Parallella - is it genuinely free software compatible?

2012-10-17 Thread gnufreeme
Is it true that this thing will put out 45GHz? I've also heard it will do so using 5 Watts. Wow! This only has 9 days left and still needs A LOT. I think some of these Kickstarter projects pick up speed toward the end. I'm hoping it does. Please consider joining us and donating.

Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-dl

2012-10-17 Thread tegskywalker
I use this Greasemonkey script and modify to offer WebM in addition to MP4: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25105

Re: [Trisquel-users] synaptic troubles

2012-10-17 Thread lutheroto
Still doesn't seem to help: $ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface toolkit-accessibility false GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications. $ sudo synaptic terminate called after throwing an instance of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis for server now?

2012-10-17 Thread Ivaylo Valkov
В 02:03 +0200 на 18.10.2012 (чт), aliasb...@gmail.com написа: Server (because everything is Vanilla and we can do whatever we want), Well with Debian ( Debian-based) you still can, but it is not as much vanilla and a lot of things are pre-configured. I have to admit that, sometimes a lot of

Re: [Trisquel-users] A FSF supported project needs help: mediagoblin

2012-10-17 Thread Ivaylo Valkov
В 22:41 +0200 на 17.10.2012 (ср), tegskywal...@hotmail.com написа: Looking back, do you think Stallman and the FSF regret having the LGPL as an option? Kind of. [1] The LGPL is not recommended/ not encouraged for new code and libraries. [1] As the article/essay it is a matter of strategy.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is the Google Advertising Cookie Opt-out Plugin free?

2012-10-17 Thread quickpr003
Not at all, this is part of their tricks, as they know people are much involve in open source, but eventually the code within includes other license. Regards, Lauren of http://www.clickxposure.com/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Cool hack for netbook users

2012-10-17 Thread alonivtsan
The bug isn't a big deal since the hack I posted does the same thing it just takes 3 commands instead of 1. Also, the graphics on the netbook is intel and I played around a bit with xorg.conf with no luck so far. If anyone finds a setting to eliminate tearing (which doesn't exist at all

Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-dl

2012-10-17 Thread alonivtsan
UnPlug is a Mozilla browser plugin which finds videos on many websites including YouTube (it lets you download all the different versions of the video that are available such as 720P, 480P and WebM and H.264 formats).