Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
You do realize that RMS himself faced that question and situation? He is a professional software writer and he decided against writing proprietary software for living. Instead he wrote free software for living. Much of free software is written today by paid professionals in addition to the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-19 Thread arielxgbarton
You can't make money just from selling free software. You will sell a few copies, then free (as in money) downloads will be all over the internet. The best thing to do would be to free it after a decent amount of money has been made, or to do free software development as a part time job.

[Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.

2013-12-19 Thread aaz893
Samsung Galaxy Star Duos GT-S5282 1.I failed to find the device in compatibility lists. I found Samsung Galaxy S, maybe this is shortening for Star? 2.How can I help to create Replicant/Cyanogenmod version for my model? P.S. I'm not going to return the phone in shop. That was the cheapest

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-19 Thread aaz893
Ethics are not the only argument for FLOSS. You're right. But the ethical argument is the most absurd for me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation

2013-12-19 Thread Andrew Roffey
My thoughts on forum moderation: 1. I personally prefer minimal moderation, but occasionally some is required (see below for more on this)... 2. Excessive and off-topic posting can drown out other posts which is essentially a form of censorship itself. Occasionally there are some users that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-19 Thread Andrew Roffey
On 18/12/13 19:20, aaz893 wrote: Why non-FLOSS is unethical? Because proprietary software stops a user from having control over their computer. Many forms of proprietary software save file/s on the computer, which can only be used by proprietary software. If a user sends a file created by a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-19 Thread aaz893
Because proprietary software stops a user from having control over their computer. How about this case: There is not such thing as freedom. All humans are slaves of the God.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-19 Thread Andrew Roffey
On 19/12/13 23:13, aaz893 wrote: Because proprietary software stops a user from having control over their computer. How about this case: There is not such thing as freedom. All humans are slaves of the God. Software developers aren't gods, so no need to be a slave. :-) Andrew.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-19 Thread shiretoko
man,never heard such crap before.

[Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread janith
http://gdnewhat.org/

Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread dadix
It's rpm better than deb? It's Fedora better than Debian? Hard to answer to these questions, so: Why don't join the Trisquel team? They are open to accept new developers in the team. The Linux world is divided in hundreds of distribution. Let's do Gnu/Linux better and united ! Ututo project

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation

2013-12-19 Thread superbyelich
Maybe a way to help this, is to have a new area for such debate.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread onpon4
It looks like they've been doing it for a few months, maybe they should e-mail the FSF and ask them to endorse it?

[Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-19 Thread dadix
I try to view this file from this post : https://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-libreplanet-2013 but I can't view or download. The download stoped at 4% .Can someone upload it to mediagoblin?

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-19 Thread george . standish
while i view the use of ubuntuone as a fail, it certainly has gotten past 4% for me (using the suggested wget command).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-19 Thread det31995
Freedom is not necessarily the ability to do anything; it is the ability to do what is right. People should not need to be ruled by a sinful man, and all humans are sinful. That is why I use libre software. How can you live with atheism, the idea that there is no reason why we are alive?

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
The download for the speech link works for me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation

2013-12-19 Thread stask
I second grimlok's new area idea. At the edges of any debate, there are things to consider, things to ponder. It's uncomfortable there for everyone. However the struggle to express ideas clarifies them. Even though I see RMS's points, and agree with them, I have benefited from reading

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-19 Thread george . standish
i spoke to soon. it did eventually stop, and thus far my wget -c .. hasn't restarted it? again, ubuntuone = fail

Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread stask
Seems like they want to focus on an enterprise system. We will change current Fedora Remix base system for enterprise linux system like CentOS(or other clones) in next GdNewHat release in order to become more stable fully free system distribution.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation

2013-12-19 Thread adfenohuvlov
david said: When situations start to get serious, or just delve into personal attacks, I first try to contact the person individually to ask for a change of attitude, and if that doesn't work as expected, more public measures are attempted (probably the strongest one is right now about to

Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread zatroch
Very interesting indeed! Finally, Japanese folks haven't fell asleep; and stupid me nearly lost all hope in their nation and software freedom aspect on path of their future development. I am really happy to see such an effort showing up apart from quite known VineLinux

Re: [Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.

2013-12-19 Thread LDrumbler
Replicant developer (more accurately, someone allowed to call myself one) here. Unfortunately, the Galaxy S and Star are not the same device. If you want Replicant support for the device, it needs to have CyanogenMod support first. But the existing CyanogenMod developers don't take device

Re: [Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.

2013-12-19 Thread adfenohuvlov
Note for Armworm and other users: I promise that I won't discuss this here anymore. I have a Samsung Galaxy Pocket Plus (GT-S5301B), which I won from my biological father as a birthday gift. It's a class M (Magical) smartphone [1], and in the last time I checked, it isn't supported by

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-19 Thread onpon4
How can you live with atheism, the idea that there is no reason why we are alive? That's not atheism. That's nihilism. Don't confuse the two. All being an atheist means is that you don't believe in any god or gods. More colloquially, that you don't believe in any religion. Most atheists I

[Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
It's the Gluglug refurbished IBM ThinkPad X60. http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/gluglug

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-19 Thread spikeb
haha, i just posted another topic with this same information, didn't see your post.

[Trisquel-users] FSF endorses a fully free laptop

2013-12-19 Thread spikeb
they certified the gluglug thinkpad that has been mentioned here in the forums. pretty cool.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Great minds think alike! :) Here's the shop btw http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/ Happy days.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-19 Thread lloyd
Nice! Does this mean there's finally a computer RMS can use?

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-19 Thread jbar
It's also available in Rubén's personal blog http://quidam.cc/01-04-2013/talk-libreplanet-2013

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-19 Thread jgay
We published a press release, too: http://www.fsf.org/news/gluglug-x60-laptop-now-certified-to-respect-your-freedom @lloydsmart: This is the first laptop RMS would recommend people to buy and use as is. RMS and the FSF have many machines that run only free software (and user installable

Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread spikeb
I just found this distro the other day. i think it's very interesting, especially if they're going to be putting out a RHEL clone that's fully free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) released.

2013-12-19 Thread chaosesqueteam
Updated to release 9. New stuff: additions to the random duengon map darkhold9 improvements to the spell casting system (if you don't know the spell but have a scroll of the spell the scroll will be read) Keys: Z X and C (iter forward, backwards and cast). Bunch of stuff for the release

Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread stask
Tried it in a VM and it seems to work pretty well. Updated the software using their tools. All worked. Uses 3.11 Libre kernel now. Very slick interface, gnome 3 out of the box neat and clean. It is very interesting as others have said.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) released.

2013-12-19 Thread chaosesqueteam
You got a prank call about the mod?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation

2013-12-19 Thread gramex
Users who want to promote proprietary software can go to the many other proprietary software forums and promote it there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread jason
It appears that they want to wait until they're rebased on CentOS before doing that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-19 Thread gramex
Ethics is the whole point of Free Software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread gramex
What's better about CentOS? As far as I know, CentOS is rebranded, has RHEL's proprietary software removed, and you can get gratis binaries.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Merry Grav-mass!

2013-12-19 Thread gramex
Grav-mass is an atheistic movement I find that strange; Isaac Newton was a Christian.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Merry Grav-mass!

2013-12-19 Thread LDrumbler
But it is propagated by Richard Stallman as an attempt to avoid celebrating the Christian holiday Christmas.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Merry Grav-mass!

2013-12-19 Thread gramex
That's why I think it's ironic!

Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-19 Thread onpon4
It's based on Fedora right now, which gets frequent updates and reaches end-of-life quickly, and they want a more stable system.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-19 Thread george . standish
ssdclickofdeath FTW

[Trisquel-users] Why there is a .rpmdb directory in my system?

2013-12-19 Thread anandawardhana
While creating backups I happened to notice this directory called .rpmdb (with files in it). Is this normal? What does this directory do?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why there is a .rpmdb directory in my system?

2013-12-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I seem to have one as well. Looks like a similar folder is related to the rpm package manager. I don't know what that's doing on a system that eats deb packages. Unless we both have ran alien, which converts rpms to debs, I might've.