Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-18 Thread svhaab
The h node listing about graphic cards does not tell for sure that a card can run on non free software? Graphic cards listed on http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/#nv20family support 3d acceleration and are able to run on free software? It may happen you install one of the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-18 Thread adel . afzal
A few of us put some info about this in the wiki: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/hardware-type-and-software-freedom I hope that we got it right. Please let us know if not.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-17 Thread svhaab
I used a wrong terminology. Shall I call it free software hardware?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-17 Thread Michał Masłowski
If you replace its nonfree VGA BIOS and revise the name to not use a noun + noun construction, then yes. If you call it hardware working with a free operating system, then it's completely clear what is ok and what isn't. (E.g. AMD cards aren't, while NVIDIA cards that ThinkPenguin sells are ok,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-17 Thread svhaab
There is no full listing of nouveau free software pci e graphic cards? I could not find a graphic card on thinkpenguin.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-17 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
It's not an exhaustive list but what users like you and me submit there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-17 Thread onpon4
tonlee: I could not find a graphic card on thinkpenguin. It's under Acessories Other Products, the GeForce 8400GS.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-16 Thread svhaab
If I do not, tell me what it is? I thought the h node was a listing of free hardware.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-16 Thread svhaab
If it is correct that the h node amd cards listing is incorrect, then what pci e cards are free hardware supporting 3d acceleration? What nvidia pci e graphic cards with 3d acceleration are free hardware? Is it not good to use a nvidia graphic card on an amd mainboard?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-16 Thread Michał Masłowski
None are free hardware that you can study, share/modify designs of and manufacture. h-node lists devices that work with a fully free operating system and ones that do not. pgpgDM4uEFStb.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-16 Thread onpon4
Nvidia doesn't support libre software, but the Nouveau project has succeeded at reverse-engineering a lot of Nvidia's video cards. For example, Think Penguin sells an (old model) Nvidia card that works perfectly with Nouveau. It's not as good a situation as Intel's integrated GPUs, but it's

[Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-15 Thread svhaab
On h node if you select amd ati, pci e, and works with 3d acceleration, you get radeon hd 4870, 6450, 7450, 8450, radeon r5 230. Cards with these chipsets come in different brands and versions. Fx various memory sizes. You get a free hardware amd ati graphic card with 3d acc no matter what

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-15 Thread Michał Masłowski
All of these reports are incorrect, people either think that llvmpipe provides GPU acceleration (it uses the CPU instead) or use the nonfree firmware. Find a way to improve h-node.org documentation to prevent such mistakes? pgpSRjtXMo3K5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-15 Thread svhaab
Thanks. I cannot get a 3d acceleration supporting pci e graphic card that is free hardware? Does fsf know their h node info on graphic cards is incorrect?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-15 Thread Michał Masłowski
Do you know what free hardware is? Some NVIDIA PCIe cards have 3d acceleration with Nouveau working with Trisquel. pgpOegeJuJQit.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-15 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Does fsf know their h node info on graphic cards is incorrect? I notified them about this.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Amd ati graphic cards only chipset matters not brand and version?

2014-10-15 Thread tegskywalker
Nvidia generally has better GNU/Linux support and many of their cards can do 3D acceleration with free drivers. I really want an Nvidia GTX 970 based card (ASUS or MSI) in the near future and hopefully a future update can bring free driver support like my current GT 430.