Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread Ade Malsasa Akbar
I am facing similar things also here in my country Indonesia and the approach I use is to ask or help the person to install LibreOffice on their respective operating system. I am trying to make everybody installs LibreOffice on their Windows computers. This way I believe we do not lose our Open

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 05/05/20 15:16 wrote: > Please don't use the term "computer illiterate". > Illiterate person is the one who can't read and/or write. > The term "computer illiterate" doesn't make any sense and sounds > disrespectful. The term "computer illiterates" was broadly used in English language in

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread xliang9550
Saving your spreadsheets as Microsoft OOXML (.xlsx) format defeats all your efforts to promote free software. By doing so, you make it even more difficult for your audience to switch to free/libre software. Keep in mind that sending proprietary format files is always the worst practice,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread enduzzer
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=R7feFEWu25A David Allen and Steve Lowry talk about the development of the Acorn BBC Micro computer and the Computer Literacy Project.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread bobandrew
Since I am not highly literate in English, I used that opportunity to improve my skills and found these to be accepted meanings for "illiterate": "Ignorant of the fundamentals of a given art or branch of knowledge: musically illiterate." "Displaying a marked lack of knowledge in a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread enduzzer
In the 80's, BBC had a CLP – Computer Literacy project. BBC Micro and Acorn computers. https://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/pilots/computer-literacy-project

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread erbperbp
>Please don't use the term "computer illiterate". >Illiterate person is the one who can't read and/or write. >The term "computer illiterate" doesn't make any sense and sounds disrespectful. Interesting comment. If I have time I will start a thread on that subject in "The Troll Lounge"

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread erbperbp
@ boba Thank you for your 2 last replies. Your response has been more than highly satisfactory. If I knew how to use rating system of this forum I would give you the highest score

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread bobandrew
I have experienced much more glitches sending ods/odt files than sending xlsx/docx files to MS Office users.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread bobandrew
I see. I have been using xlsx and docx files for similar purposes to yours, in a similar situation. My experience is that if there is no heavy formatting, the program you used to create them will most probably be transparent to the recipients. I have sometimes also experienced unexpected

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread vas1980i
Please don't use the term "computer illiterate". Illiterate person is the one who can't read and/or write. The term "computer illiterate" doesn't make any sense and sounds disrespectful.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread erbperbp
I really don't know if recipients will want to modify what I am sending them. I would't mind if they want to do so. That's why I thought of sending them an editable spreadsheet and not a pdf file. I want to make things for them as easier as possible. Don't you think that sending an xlsx file

Re: [Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread bobandrew
Do the recipients of the data need to modify them? If not, would a pdf file do the job?

[Trisquel-users] Communicating to computer illiterates who use proprietary software

2020-05-05 Thread erbperbp
At least for the last decade I have only used GNU-LINUX programs and Gnumeric has been one that has given me the most satisfaction. I'm using Flidas almost since it was launched. Now I need to share some of the data I keep on Gnumeric spreadsheets with people whose computing knowledge is