Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-15 Thread davidvargas1
It was all libre volunteer service, I tested 6 different OSI, 3 from GNU'LINUX and SLItaz did the job. It felt like I was working under pressure and not getting paid for it. I had better luck with P3 and P4 desktop but laptops this old was extremely hard. Yet, my friend told me, that he

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-15 Thread jtlebeau
Out of curiosity, did you try ConnochaetOS? (http://www.connochaetos.org/wiki/)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-14 Thread davidvargas1
Chris said: A 7 year old laptop is REALLY pushing it technologically. It might be time for a new system :) With GNU/Linux in general though you can usually keep such systems on life support without going insane longer though. Just use the LTS releases. But even that has its limits.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-14 Thread onpon4
I don't know if you tried Dragora, but that should work on such a system the next time you come across one. It's supposed to be lightweight and simple, and it lists 64 MB as its minimum RAM requirement.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-14 Thread gustavo_cm
I would suggest it too, but it is KISS; non-experienced (or, better, not-willing-to-experienciate) users may have troubles with it. It seems the case of this man and his friend.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-13 Thread mampir
I have used Trisquel 5.5 on a laptop with 256 RAM and a 700 MHz x86 processor. It was probably made around 1999-2000. It was my main computer for about 4 months. I used it mainly for communicating (email and Jabber), web browsing, notes and web development. It was adequate. I installed

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-12 Thread davidvargas1
Bad news Trisquel is not able to install on his laptop, the minimum requirements is 512k of memory, His laptop only has 486k. I had to switch to something else light that will use lesser amount of memory. In the mean time, while I was doing this, I did lend him my old laptop which

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-12 Thread onpon4
486 kilobytes of RAM? That was extremely small years ago. Surely you must mean 486 megabytes of RAM? Assuming you actually meant MB and not KB, all you need to do to fix the problem is install a lightweight DE, like LXDE or Xfce. Xfce is what the OpenPandora uses, with only 256 MB of RAM.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-12 Thread ron
I understand what you are saying, unfortunately most of my friends and family do not. As I have given them partially working installations of Trisquel due to lack of free drivers, only to have them ask me to re-install Windows. Which having them switch back to Windows does not solve the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-12 Thread onpon4
My brother quit Linux Mint despite having huge slowdown problems with Windows probably because of a combination of a few small issues (some driver issue with the video that caused bad 3D graphics, trouble with his wireless, and lack of nonfree game support). His conclusion in the end was

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-12 Thread davidvargas1
Onpo4 You are right is only 486 Meg, I did try Trisquel Mini, it DOES NOT WORK, it requires 512-Meg as a minimum. Trisquel Mini is not designed for systems with less than 512 Megs of ram. Trisquel kick the bucket on this one, as much I liked, it does not work, neither will allow you to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-12 Thread chris
A 7 year old laptop is REALLY pushing it technologically. It might be time for a new system :) With GNU/Linux in general though you can usually keep such systems on life support without going insane longer though. Just use the LTS releases. But even that has its limits.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread gustavo_cm
No links appeared, Chris. Jodiendo, I would boot the system with a Trisquel LiveCD and test the wireless; if it doesn't work, which is most probable, then I would teach my (your) friend about what many companies do in order to have control of the market: restrict the consumer/user's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread ron
Most here may not agree with my response but I would suggest, for someone who is new to the GNU Linux environment, to get them a distro that will give them the least problems when it comes to compatibility with hardware. I did this with my friends and family as I gave them Ubuntu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-08 10:24 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com a écrit : Besides the USB G adapter option there is also a mini pci card option most likely. You can replace the card inside the laptop. It looks like it should be an easy thing to do. There appears to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-09 12:37 PM, r...@ronbravo.com a écrit : Most here may not agree with my response but I would suggest, for someone who is new to the GNU Linux environment, to get them a distro that will give them the least problems when it comes to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
Sorry guys, been working extra long hours on the field. Here is the latest news, as of today. After explaining, the lack of full cooperation, That certain companies consider those drivers and firmware to be theirs, and sometimes there is no support TO THE GNU/linux COMMUNITY: hes reply

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread onpon4
I second this. Including nonfree drivers and firmware does not result in the least amount of problems; it results in the most amount of problems being hidden. Eventually the nonfree software will fail, and when it does, the person you introduced GNU/Linux to will be frustrated and assume

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread onpon4
Not wanting to spend money because the computer is old. Sounds like my mom. If you're feeling charitable, you could offer to buy something for him, but that might not be something you can do. Try mentioning this: if a new component is bought, it can be used on future laptops and other

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread Jason Self
I've heard others advocate a similar strategy involving a multi-step strategy of moving people to free software. The problem I find with this is that everyone then spends all of their time on step one (being more free than they were in step zero) and no one moves on to step two (fully free.) We

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
Ronbravo and MAGIC FAB Thanks for your suggestion, all are valid. I'm going to stick to my game plan on persuade him to purchase and sharing the cost for a card or an adapter, that will ease the pain. I think he is getting a sweet deal from me, sort of speak. While typing, on my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
Christ If I'm successful in persuading him, once I purchase what ever adapter we choose. Don't forget to toss a mouse pad in the package just for libre purposes. LOL

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
Onpong Excellent suggestions. You just gave me more ammunition to reinforce my comments.Are you sure you are a Lawyer? lol Thank You

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread davidvargas1
JXself Exactly, If I'm successful I believe I graduated from Step one. So, in your own interpretation, what is Step 2? Be my Polaris star on this one, just guide me. Hey, I could pin point with accuracy the Polaris star at night, If you need help. During my Army days, One of the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread chris
The problem with randomly installing GNU/Linux is the hardware in general isn't well supported. It'll work today although not tomorrow. There really isn't a problem with Ubuntu on hardware which is better supported from an ease of use perspective. Getting people to move away from a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-09 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-09 01:48 PM, davidvarg...@mac.com a écrit : Dammit, I just order a card for myself, I wish I could bought him one...I got no more money to spare, until the end of the month. I have an idea: I will try to persuade him to purchase a new

[Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-08 Thread davidvargas1
Recently, I had a visit from a very close and old friend of mines. During the long Parle, of many new subjects and issues. The subject of his old laptop came up; “the famous WIN XP PRO” was acting up. He wanted to format the whole drive and install something different and not spend

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-08 Thread rakubx
To solve the Wifi problem maybe buy it : https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-g-usb-adapter or find something else and try.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-08 Thread onpon4
I’m asking the community, in case the Wi-Fi does not work; what should I do?, What would you recommend? Well, the optimal solution would be to get a USB WiFi adapter, such as the one sold at http://libre.thinkpenguin.com. Just be straight with your friend: tell him that the manufacturer

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-08 Thread mattij . lammi
Yeah, you should just buy a new wifi card or a USB wifi adapter supported by free software. Also, please report your friends laptop and its parts to h-node by booting it up from a Trisquel GNU/Linux live-CD (or any other fully free distro of your choise) if you can. It would help.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.

2013-02-08 Thread chris
Make sure you blame the culprit responsible here: Intel Acer. Trisquel and the free software community are not getting the cooperation needed to support this intel wifi card. If you buy hardware less hostile to free software there isn't likely to be a problem. The good news is you can