Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-06-01 Thread catfishagain
I've been using Trisquel as my only OS for almost two years now. I used Ubuntu briefly and then found Richard Stallman. Was lucky with my hardware in that it worked without problems. Then I was inspired to get a free bios in the form of libreboot and got a gluglug http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi
Both very good links right there, I would recommend the person who posts this thread reading them. Even I am going to read them :D.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi
As in the RMS analogy?

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-06-01 Thread blade . vp2020
Trisquel is my only OS and has been since 2010 But I' not coming from windows I'm come from Solaris and net bsd for me Trisquel is user-friendly I love it

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-31 Thread deavmi
Especially if its Python. Lol. Compiling one single Python script is easy.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-31 Thread deavmi
What are delta updates?

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-31 Thread greatgnu
..and free beer..

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-31 Thread deavmi
Proprietary software is terrible. Plus the terminal is a helpful tool. Learn it (in mynhumble opinion). GNU/Linux-libre does not require a user to always use the terminal (if you have a desktop environment). We are all about Freedom over convenience.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-31 Thread tomlukeywood
We are all about Freedom over convenience. and hopefully freedom and convenience

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-31 Thread onpon4
Well, you don't need to (and shouldn't) think about it, so that's not really a meaningful example. If you actually manually compile your Python code, you're doing it wrong; you're supposed to let the interpreter handle that for you (and pass -O or -OO if you want optimizations). But even C

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-31 Thread pandyadeepp
Though initially you realize Terminal (command-line) is hard and difficult, But I am sure you will find it powerful, fast and secure. For new user visit Introduction to The Command Line. Have a look: Why we must insist on free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-27 Thread davesamcdxv
Well OSX does have the advantages of entire programs being packaged up into what appear to the user as a single object Wait for Snappy.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-27 Thread onpon4
Usually, if you're a software developer, you distribute source and possibly run-in-place binaries, and let distro maintainers package them. The only reason debs are distributed by upstream developers, usually, is to let users of Debian and Ubuntu get the latest release more easily.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-27 Thread greatgnu
Compiling is much easier than it first appears to be. Just start with easy ones. Read the instructions. And try to understand the outputs of the messages. When you reach a point of no-go in compiling it will output an error message that contains the answer to solve it. Compile happy people,

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-27 Thread chris
It's not usually Trisquel that people find difficult. It's usually that without the proprietary bits (not included in Trisquel) there are certain things you just can't do/figure out. Sometimes there is a solution and asking here is the first step, but sometimes there is no good solution- or

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-26 Thread nicolasmaia
Yeah but installing from a .tar file still gives me chills. Why can't they just make .debs?

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-26 Thread davesamcdxv
Is there anyone who has used this operating system everyday as his/her only OS?Not me but if I'm pretty close to and if I had to I won't mind a bit. Is it hard to make Trisquel as user friendly as Windows or Mac are? It already is in my opinion. I use the terminal for a few tasks but they're

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-26 Thread davesamcdxv
When one opts for the terminal instead of the GUI and calls oneself dumb for it then one is dumb for not realising how otherwise un-dumb one is :P

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-26 Thread martin
I'm sure there are many people here, who use Trisquel as a main and only everyday OS. :) I've used exclusively Trisquel for 5 years now, judging by how old my account is.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-26 Thread jabjabs
Well OSX does have the advantages of entire programs being packaged up into what appear to the user as a single object... that is about the end of its usability features that benefit most people. :P

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-26 Thread tomlukeywood
too much of a dumb blonde please do not reinforce this stereotype

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-26 Thread jbar
In a trisquel workstation you don't need to run periodically anti malware software or defrag the disks. Just update the system when required. And install/remove software is very easy with tools like synaptic. In my opinion, this makes trisquel very user-friendly. Although freedom is more

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-26 Thread gary02121993
Agree! On 05/26/2015 09:25 PM, tomlukeyw...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: too much of a dumb blonde please do not reinforce this stereotype

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-26 Thread nicolasmaia
I also switched to Trisquel this year after being annoyed with Windows 8, and I haven't looked back since! GNU/Linux is very customizable and there are always tons of options for getting things done. I'm also not an IT guy and I installed Trisquel because of the free software philosophy :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread noordinaryspider
Trisquel is my only OS and has been since 2012. I do not write code and would be considered an average end user rather than a power user by most people who work in IT.

[Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread josevieira1194
I've been using Windows since I was a kid, from Windows 95 to now Windows 8. I had never heard about free or proprietary software until a few months ago. It all started when I searched for alternative operating systems as I was very disappointed with Win 8. Then I stumbled upon GNU/Linux

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread mail
Purely free GNU/Linux operating systems have been the only ones I've used over the past 41 weeks and 6 hours (How long I've been on this forum :p)-- I was a beginner, and found Trisquel to be quite user-friendly. You won't ever need to touch the terminal unless you want to, so don't worry

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread onpon4
I can't comment on Mac OS X, but I think Trisquel is much more user-friendly than Windows. You just don't see it that way because you're used to Windows. :) Granted, the GNOME Flashback environment is a little more primitive; you might appreciate GNOME Shell, KDE Plasma, or Cinnamon, which

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread josevieira1194
Thanks for you replies so soon. And I appreciate you being so supportive. Is there anyone who has used this operating system everyday as his/her only OS? How many of you users are beginners like me?

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread greatgnu
Consider if learning a couple of terminal commands (you don't need to by the way, with Trisk) or dumping a couple of proprietary applications to do your computing in freedom is better than using an OS which as you said makes you outraged about the commercial practices and surveillance that

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread noordinaryspider
Hello, I would like to congratulate you on taking the first step. The sooner you get out from the proprietary software trap, the less hooked you will be on these applications that seem out of reach and the less inconvenient free software will feel to you. I am not the stereotype that

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
You should dislike proprietary applications for the same reasons you dislike proprietary operating systems. Instead of SPSS check out https://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/ Don't fear the terminal. But if you don't want to use it, you don't need to. Just expect to be limited by the boring GUIs.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread marioxcc . MT
I can't comment on user friendliness compared to Windows or OS X because I don't use them. I can comment, however, that Trisquel is derived from Ubuntu which has the reputation of being “user-friendly”. I do not like the term “user-friendly”, but I do not oppose it on ethical reasons. It

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread gary02121993
Good mate! :D Trisquel's been the best distro I've used! Thanks to the people who made it, especially Ruben! On 05/26/2015 12:09 AM, m...@jadedfs.net wrote: Purely free GNU/Linux operating systems have been the only ones I've used over the past 41 weeks and 6 hours (How long I've been on this

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread gary02121993
Do you guys think Trisquel is already user-friendly enough for the masses? You know, like will it be as user friendly as Windows? People who aren't really familiar with Windows tend to get a grip on it easily, same goes with Mac OS. Something tells me the hype behind those OSes helps them to get a

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread gary02121993
Super agree on that! Hype indeed is a major player on both of those distros I said. On 05/26/2015 12:53 AM, onp...@riseup.net wrote: Unless there's been substantial improvement with Windows 8, I don't think Windows is as user-friendly as GNOME Flashback, let alone GNOME Shell. Windows just has

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread onpon4
Unless there's been substantial improvement with Windows 8, I don't think Windows is as user-friendly as GNOME Flashback, let alone GNOME Shell. Windows just has a lot of users, so whenever someone is confused, they ask the person next to them.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread abhijithb21
There is a list of free software applications in the FSF website. It will be of great use to you in future. The list is well categorized. http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-05-25 Thread noordinaryspider
As often as not, I'm just too lazy and too much of a dumb blonde to bother opening Synaptic when it is so much easier to just type sudo apt-get install (name of program) into a terminal window. I don't have enough recent experience with windows to have a valid opinion since I haven't