Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-15 Thread davesamcdxv
Yeah, just don't expect privacy. And having said that there are a lot of uses in which on is fine without it, just like how CCTVs might not be in one's house, but the police have a right to put them in public places. The important thing is users have the right to privately store it and

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-15 Thread simonafreeman
What's wrong with this: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/server And then building from this platform up?

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-14 Thread shiretoko
Can you explain what a 'docker container' is? Never heard of it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-14 Thread tegskywalker
http://www.docker.com/whatisdocker/ There are containers for Ubuntu and would be nice for Trisquel as well.

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-14 Thread tegskywalker
I would never use cloud services for my personal files, but I see the value for web sites that may benefit from potential scalability.

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-14 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
I swear most of you free software evangelists are stuck in your ways with viewpoints that are over a decade old. Like time-sharing and main frame computers? What is wrong with deploying a Docker container on a hosting company if you have total control of that container? The point is you

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-14 Thread tegskywalker
Well, someone has to host it as most ISPs will not allow you to host a website from your home.

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-14 Thread shiretoko
A self-hosted cloud isn't the same as a self-hosted website since you're the only one accessing it from outside and hence traffic is lower. Most isp allow it i guess. The real problem is that it's a pain in the neck setting it up und maintaining the cloud in a secure way. You have enough

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-13 Thread superbyelich
I agree with fr33dom, We should shy away from cloud-based computing because by promoting it, we are promoting the control over others. Setting up one's own server and own personal cloud is a way to fight this. Peace, grimlok

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-13 Thread tegskywalker
I swear most of you free software evangelists are stuck in your ways with viewpoints that are over a decade old. What is wrong with deploying a Docker container on a hosting company if you have total control of that container?

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-13 Thread jason
I don't think people need help (i.e. hosting companies) putting their e-mail, photos, videos, calendars, address books, messages, documents (and whatever else they might put on their server) to third parties. The Internet-using public already seems exceedingly efficient at doing that.

[Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-12 Thread tegskywalker
Trisquel at this point is pretty much a desktop only OS that cleans out the Ubuntu install and changes around some packages while blacklisting others. Its nice to have a libre desktop and all, but the developers should take the server space more seriously too. I'm talking maybe a server

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-12 Thread tegskywalker
Good for you. I can do the same thing, but hosting places want autonomy and simplicity with a pre-built image.

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-12 Thread fr33domlover
On 2014-11-12 tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote: Good for you. I can do the same thing, but hosting places want autonomy and simplicity with a pre-built image. That's exactly why we have our own home servers - we can control what we put there. Ruben already does a lot of work, I wouldn't add