Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-26 Thread moxalt
complete idiot Something you have no right to accuse anyone of being.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-26 Thread dhood
What I would like to see is a fork of Firefox that directly incorporates the common add-ons added by the community directly into the browser. The idea that a browser has to be augmented with Https everywhere, no-script, and other freedom relevant add-ons to function the way the community

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
ChaosEsque has forked Darkplaces aswell: we stay on a branch that works equally well with old intel gfx because we don't want to throw people under the bus, something swine like you don't understand. We patch it from time to time, and sometimes add small features of our own, but mainly

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Mozilla is not a friend anymore. Nor is Linux post-systemd. Mozilla is about two things today: advertisement and progressive (feminist/lgbt) politics. Not classical free software. This explains their actions. Just like systemd/linux, mozilla needs to be forked (and it has been: palemoon

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
I don't really understand why the Tor Browser uses firefox. How can something that churns so often be secure?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
I am French but live in Belo Horizonte (Brazil), where I am a university professor. My research deals with data-mining. I mainly study the extraction of closed patterns in n-dimensional data. Check out my website: http://dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf Yay datamining: aka spying. Hmm the other

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread chaosesqueteam
Going to tell us to fork anything else? Because so far you are zero for 2. YEP We forked Xonotic (Bigtime). YEP We forked Darkplaces (just alittle, but we like to keep compat with old intel hardware and dabble in adding small features once in a blue moon, and ofcourse adding patches that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-25 Thread legimet . calc
Data mining can be used for for spying. It can also be used for other purposes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining#Notable_uses.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-22 Thread chris
Yea- I'm not entirely sure this is as bad as some are suggesting, but it's not entirely clear to me why they are removing the preference. I'd think it were to prevent malicious applications- which might even include those from say Oracle from modifying the preference so that it can continue

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-21 Thread onpon4
I don't know about making it impossible to use unsigned extensions without recompiling as a security feature, but it could be that Mozilla really just doesn't want people to see browsers being slowed down by malware extensions due to users' stupid decisions, being called Firefox. If that's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-21 Thread legimet . calc
IceCat has a Windows version :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-21 Thread chris
I must be missing something. What exactly is the objection here? This issue doesn't directly impact Trisquel's browser. Is it more along the line that Mozilla's prohibiting third party plug-ins that don't go through an approval process? I'm not sure this is an acceptable stance to take. How

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-21 Thread chris
Yea- much of what is removed is because there are issues with it as it relates to freedom. It's not necessarily that it can't be fixed, but there aren't the resources to fix it. If someone wanted to maintain a Chromium build that complied with the stance of the Trisquel project then it would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-21 Thread tegskywalker
I think you mean Mozilla, as a CORPORATION: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-21 Thread dbpalma9
That's right. When Chromium was much cleaner and had less features some years ago it was super fast and that's how it gained its popularity. Nowadays that isn't true, it's a Ram-eating monster much slower than firefox. It's still a very nice browser but it's non-free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-21 Thread davesamcdxv
At least you can now nicely recommend non-branded versions of FF...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-20 Thread calmstorm
pity, I used to think mozilla was a good organization... My how the mighty fall... and in this case they fell really hard on a stone floor.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-20 Thread matt . ivie
It seems to me that Mozilla, as an organisation, just keeps getting worse and worse. I still really like Iceweasel, Icecat and abrowser and if someone is one a Windoze or Mac I suggest firefox to them over anything else. It is sad though that Mozilla keeps selling out.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-17 Thread superbyelich
I'm not sure about Chromium, but where I work, both Chrome and Firefox are installed alongside Internet Explorer to give user choice, and I have noticed that Firefox has been loading and running significantly faster than Chrome here as of late.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-17 Thread davesamcdxv
Actually I think this is, in some way, good news. There's now an official, Mozilla-made, version of what for all intents and purposes is really Iceweasel. And, I guess much less significantly, there'll probably a Windows or OS X version of it too!

[Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-16 Thread lap4fsf
Mozilla will begin requiring all extensions to be signed in order for them to be installable in Release and Beta versions of Firefox. This will take effect from Firefox 42 (Read Abrowser 42.) for the in-release versions and Firefox ESR 45. (Scheduled for March 8,2016.) Unbranded versions

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-16 Thread lap4fsf
Anyway nowhere in the page does it say and/or imply that ... which would involve a license change which is neither mentioned nor implied either. You are right. The correct word that fits to the context is may rather than should, which impose restrictions. However, the use of a generic name

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-16 Thread tegskywalker
Years ago, there was an issue with Chromium having problems with 3rd party code licensing even if the browser was under one of the BSD licenses. Chromium would later be labeled non-free by the Trisquel team even though Debian and Ubuntu did not. Is this still an issue? I still find

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-16 Thread davesamcdxv
In addition they should be available in the en-US locale only.My interpretation is that FF will make an unbranded version of the browser (which isgood, isn't it?) in en-US. I'm guessing future versions of Abrowser might be based on this special version (and maybe Ruben will drop

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-16 Thread tegskywalker
Its use IS discouraged since the Trisquel devs go out of their way to ignore it and purge anything related to it. Of course I can always add the Ubuntu universe repo, but its annoying.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-16 Thread davesamcdxv
Yeah, though I don't think the lack of libre-addons-only page fro Chromium should be used against it since should it be made fully, verifiably free, and enter trisquel's repos (and Parabola's), it shouldn't be long before such an addons page appears.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-16 Thread jadedml
Chromium *IS* non-free software. It installs binary blobs without warning or asking you every time it launches. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786909#5

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla decides to sign all addons / extensions.

2015-08-16 Thread jason
This shows all the more reason to not use Firefox. I'm sure Abrowser and IceCat will both be modified appropriately so as to not enforce signature checking (or maybe have it be an optional thing so that people can decide on their own), so it's a non-issue in the free world.