Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-10-14 Thread Ade Malsasa Akbar
On 10/12/19, stry...@disintermedia.net.nz wrote: > As are AppImage files: > https://appimage.org/ I love AppImage. Thanks for adding it here, strypey.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-10-12 Thread strypey
I've heard similar comments about Docker and DockerHub. AFAIK Docker itself is 100% free software. But DockerHub, like Flathub, has non-free components (or did at the time I saw the discussion about it on a mailing list).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-10-12 Thread strypey
As are AppImage files: https://appimage.org/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-17 Thread Ade Malsasa Akbar
On 9/17/19, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: > whereas there is only one Snap Store, > controlled by Canonical. Ah, yes, I forgot that point. Thanks for reminding me, Mason.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-17 Thread mason
> Isn't this installer wizard FOSS? > This it could be ported to any Debian derivative distro. Sure, it's easier when it comes directly from upstream, but not necessary. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-17 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 17/9/19 a les 1:27, ma...@masonhock.com ha escrit: > Ubuntu also has some > advantages, like a more user-friendly installer Isn't this installer wizard FOSS? This it could be ported to any Debian derivative distro. If Canonical is a friend of FOSS community, any enhancement found in Ubuntu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread andyprough
> However, Ubuntu also has some advantages, like a more user-friendly installer. I think the Live ISO installer changed to calamares with Debian Buster. Should be a lot nicer than the old one.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread behmen
I see... Thank you for your explanation.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread mason
> If Canonical are such a bad faith player among GNU/Linux > distributions, why is Trisquel based off of Ubuntu? I don't know I'd go so far as to say "bad faith." Their goals are often parallel to, but ultimately different from ours. They have done a lot to facilitate the adoption of GNU/Linux,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread behmen
If Canonical are such a bad faith player among GNU/Linux distributions, why is Trisquel based off of Ubuntu? I don't have much knowledge with GNU/Linux systems so excuse my lack of knowledge, but from what I've gathered Debian is free out-of-the-box whilst Ubuntu isn't. Wouldn't it be

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 09/16/2019 03:41 PM, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: >However, once > Ubuntu users transition to using snap for applications, Ubuntu could > conceivably drop its Universe repository (which already does not receive > security updates), and that would affect Trisquel. To be honest, I use Flatpak on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread mason
> If Canonical goes to snap only and drops debs, that means 41 > downstream distros like Trisquel could be stuck with having to become > snap/systemd systems. They probably won't drop debs entirely. The base system, maybe things like desktop environments too, will likely still be based on Debian.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread Caleb Herbert
Whereas Flatpak repositories are just as neutral and decentralized as apt repos. -- Caleb Herbert KE0VVT 816-892-9669 https://bluehome.net/csh <>

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread mason
> What a good comparison. But hardly an unbiased one, considering that this article was published by Canonical. One important difference that the article leaves out is that any developer, distro, or individual can create an apt repository and decide what goes in it, whereas there is only one Snap

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread andyprough
From the article: > Snaps are self-contained application packages designed to run on any system that supports them. Practically, this translates into 41 systemd-enabled distributions at the moment. This highlights my concern with systemd, snap, and flatpaks. RedHat and Canonical appear to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread Ade Malsasa Akbar
What a good comparison. That's really in interesting for me. Thanks Ignacio!

[Trisquel-users] Not really for users, but very interesting: deb versus snap

2019-09-16 Thread Ignacio Agulló
A technical comparison between snaps and debs | Snapcraft https://snapcraft.io/blog/a-technical-comparison-between-snaps-and-debs -- Ignacio Agulló · grafot...@grafotema.com