Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-20 Thread svhaab
>You are speaking about the intel Boot guard I speak about, you do not have the source code. You cannot install your own software, because you cannot sign the software, because you do not have the key.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread onpon4
This is true, but Think Penguin also doesn't market itself as selling freedom-respecting hardware. It just markets itself as selling hardware that works with libre GNU/Linux distros out-of-the-box. Only products which have been RYF-certified are labeled as freedom-friendly.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread onpon4
I don't even like the fact that they're calling this "disabling" the ME. That term suggests that it's not being run, when it absolutely is; it's just being run less.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread leoo
This is an excellent post, but ThinkPenguin does not go as far out of its way to caution customers as Technoethical does. A relevant point of comparison would be Technoethical's up-front and proactive discussion of the limitations of its smartphones, including from a freedom perspective, whi

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread masonhock
I think the page you link to is a good example of why Purism comes across as less-than-honest. While they avoid explicitly taking credit for disabling the ME, they phrase everything so that if you aren't paying very close attention you'll interpret it that way. For example, your initial pos

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread ivan . baldinotti
yep, I think the same. They are really doing some work

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread 0d54770d
I never said that Purism did this work all by themselves; I merely bring it up, because it demonstrates their commitment to free software, making it harder to believe that they are some kind of fraud (which a lot of people on this forum think is the case).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread ivan . baldinotti
Not totally correct. You are speaking about the intel Boot guard that is not enabled on all laptop. If it is enabled me_cleaner doesn't work. Check here please: https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/wiki/Intel-Boot-Guard So if you are able to use the me_cleaner script means that there is no intel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread ivan . baldinotti
The only credit I would give to Purism company is the fact that they are investing on this topic. They ported their hardware to coreboot. This requires some work as I am finding out. Not so easy as disabling intel ME.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread svhaab
People on libreboot's irc says differently. Libre software requires you have all the source code. You do not. The intel cpus will only work, if the software is signed by an encryption key only intel has. That is why you cannot select what cpu software to install.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread ivan . baldinotti
Mhmm This is already done by many here check here please: https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/issues/3 All these people did already this. The developer that achieved this is Nicola Corna. Credit to him. I also disabled intel ME. If you check here: https://puri.sm/posts/deep-dive-into-intel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread ivan . baldinotti
Here a very good guide on how to do this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sakaki%27s_EFI_Install_Guide/Disabling_the_Intel_Management_Engine

[Trisquel-users] Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable the Intel ME!!!

2017-10-19 Thread 0d54770d
https://puri.sm/posts/purism-librem-laptops-completely-disable-intel-management-engine/ This is a huge step for software freedom!