Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I ignore learning Java and other programming languages that use the Java virtual machine (JVM)?

2018-12-09 Thread les . reading
Hi, If you want to be a back-end developer learning how to use SQL properly will be worth doing. Both MariaDB & PostgreSQL are free projects and both have their own variations of SQL and methods to use objects compiled from other languages. The main thing is that SQL doesn't really go in or

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I ignore learning Java and other programming languages that use the Java virtual machine (JVM)?

2018-12-07 Thread Patrick
This post is going to start a massive flame war. Better move the moderators into position now. I don't want it to continue but I also can't resist adding to it as I love this sort of topic. Please seriously consider COBOL. I love GnuCOBOL. So many things still run on COBOL and the developers

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I ignore learning Java and other programming languages that use the Java virtual machine (JVM)?

2018-12-07 Thread smirnov . dmitri
Anyway web-dev is good area if you need quickly earn money. I was in same situation where I was very needed money when I was around 20. So I learn HTML+CSS+JS+PHP and started to earn. But will be quickly overwhelmed by annoying clients, stupid people, marketing etc. I talk with my colleague

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I ignore learning Java and other programming languages that use the Java virtual machine (JVM)?

2018-12-07 Thread smirnov . dmitri
Modern PHP isn't so bad as it's described. Agree that older versions of PHP were absolutely awful. Today it's pretty nice language. Problem of the PHP that it has huge crappy written code-base behind and army of unprofessional programmers. In my opinion JavaScript is **much more** confused

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I ignore learning Java and other programming languages that use the Java virtual machine (JVM)?

2018-12-07 Thread hadipeyrow
Great tips, thanks a lot... I was going to learn php language, but I heard so bad things from the programmers that I gave up :) for example: PHP syntax is ugly and not easy to maintain. PHP is not like a language like Python, and ...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I ignore learning Java and other programming languages that use the Java virtual machine (JVM)?

2018-12-07 Thread smirnov . dmitri
I worked as web-developer about 15 years and can give you a quick review about language and industry. Haskell First of all about Haskell. It was my misunderstanding. There nothing wrong about Haskell in freedom terms. But Haskell is more academic languages and there are aren't much jobs th

[Trisquel-users] Should I ignore learning Java and other programming languages that use the Java virtual machine (JVM)?

2018-12-07 Thread hadipeyrow
Hello again! Dear friends, thank you so much for your helps. I really learned a lot from you. I read a article: "Free but Shackled - The Java Trap" by Richard Stallman in here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html question 1) Whats your opinion about languages like Java, Scala, Clojur