Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-26 Thread caleb
I'm okay with the downgraded performance. :) My philosophy on software has been changing recently and I'm really not into gaming that much any more. I don't like all of the DRM with AAA games coming out. My new geforce 8400gs has been fine for me so far. I plan on doing some more tinkering

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-15 Thread caleb
That sucks that they downgrade their performance and put limits on it. :/ It'd be nice if there was a completely open source software/hardware based graphics accelerator but I know that would be a huge undertaking to build!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-15 Thread vitacell
O yeah. So you thing that it is fine that Nvidia downgrades performance for their older video cards through drivers and gpu's firmware. Nice example is Kepler cards.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-15 Thread caleb
Cool! Thanks for sharing the info :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-15 Thread greatgnu
The GPU performance state APIs are used to get and set various performance levels on a per-GPU basis. P-States are GPU active/executing performance capability and power consumption states. P-States range from P0 to P15, with P0 being the highest performance/power state, and P15 being the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-15 Thread caleb
What are pstates? Something to do with a performance level?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-15 Thread caleb
Hi lembas! :) I care about freedom as well but I also have a deep passion for programming 3D graphics and would like to continue doing hobby projects on my GNU/Linux setup. The rest of my development stack works great on Trisquel and I'm happy to be moving over to the libre world. I sadly

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-15 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Some people just care about their freedom.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-14 Thread vitacell
You will have 3d acceleration with Nvidia cards, but at lower pstate. But you can reclock Kepler cards and run it with highter pstate.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-14 Thread tegskywalker
Why would you downgrade a GTX 970 for a much weaker GeForce 8400GS? You are sacrificing performance just for the sake of being libre. When you buy a card like the 970, your intentions are to play games and those games run better with the non-free drivers.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-14 Thread caleb
Thanks for the info! :) I might have to look more into the Kepler cards. I actually just ordered a new desktop from ThinkPengiun with a Geforce 8400GS. Hoping that card works well and I get some 3D acceleration! It looks like h-node says that card works with nouveau drivers but it wasn't

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-12 Thread vitacell
The bad is, that your GPU need signed Nvidia's firmware (more than non-free obviously). And deblobbed Linux won't give you that firmware, because is Nvidia's blob and it is missing. Your GPU can not to work properly without that signed firmware.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-12 Thread caleb
Well I did some more digging and found this post https://trisquel.info/en/forum/upgraded-video-card. Looks like I need to get an older nvidia card and check h-node to see what card I should buy. I'll keep this thread updated with what I end up getting. :)

[Trisquel-users] Trouble getting nouveau to load instead of vesa for my nvidia 970

2016-10-12 Thread caleb
Hello! I'm completely new to Trisquel and libre software. I just did a fresh install of Trisquel 7 64 bit and everything went fine except my computer keeps using the basic vesa drivers instead of the nouveau ones. I updated all of my packages to the latest and even installed the latest