Re: [Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-31 Thread adel . afzal
Thanks guys, all your responses are very helpful.

Re: [Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-30 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Obviously the worst thing about proprietary JavaScript is that it's proprietary. You don't have the 4 freedoms. Besides that JavaScript can be used for snooping various things, some listed at https://panopticlick.eff.org/ Also, the JavaScript sandboxes on many applications are not too good

Re: [Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-30 Thread Andrew Roffey
I posted my IMO on harmful effects of non-free JavaScript here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/harmful-effects-non-free-javascript tl;dr: tricking users, unnecessarily tracking of user actions on pages, obfuscation or primitive digital restrictions management (hard to tell, not sure what

Re: [Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-30 Thread joseph . e . dickson
I think of it this way, Facebook and I presume Google track users when they're logged out and not even on their sites through all sorts of code that we can't see or opt out of. http://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-we-do-track-logged-out-users-but-trust-us/#!

Re: [Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-30 Thread mail
Thanks for the great essay- I'm now convinced that I should keep LibreJS enabled.

[Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-29 Thread adel . afzal
I read RMS' article about Javascript, Flash, and other non-free website code: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html In what ways are users vulnerable to proprietary Javascript? If there are examples, could you please provide links?

Re: [Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-29 Thread mail
A great amount of websites. From the top of my head, pretty much everything Google.

Re: [Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-29 Thread adel . afzal
I mean, in what ways can third parties control the non-free website software, that a user may not agree with if fully informed? For example: can non-free website software access and report on information in users' web browsers? How about local home folders?

Re: [Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-29 Thread onpon4
It's kind of an odd thing, because in the name of security, JavaScript tends to be a somewhat castrated language, at least when it's loaded on the request of a web page. You have all these settings in a browser for what it can and cannot do, and JavaScript's ability is usually crippled by

Re: [Trisquel-users] non-free sw on websites

2014-12-29 Thread tsduv1994
I'm not really an expert on the matter, but from what I understand it is a significant risk. The Wikipedia article on Cross-site scripting (XSS) might be an interesting read.[0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_scripting