Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-16 Thread dguthrie
let's get real, he probably has read it. he's clearly not stupid just likes non-free license!

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-16 Thread greatgnu
> I felt that it was way too long and boring for anyone to read seriously seriously?

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-16 Thread adrian . malacoda
According to Build engine's author[0] this is why he created his own license instead of using the GPL. > Short answer: to satisfy my ego :) Long answer: I know GPL is an industry standard, but I felt that it was way too long and boring for anyone to read seriously. I chose to write a nice

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-14 Thread greatgnu
Yeah, it's a shame. Profit before everything.

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-14 Thread vitacell
Valve stopped making games (making a game waste the money), they prefer make money selling games of other companies, because they making more profit doing nothing.

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-13 Thread greatgnu
* by "source engine" I mean the Valve's Source engine for I am a huge hl fan, best game :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-13 Thread onpon4
> For instance I think there should always be a way for people to make sure that their name is always attached to their work That's not what copyright does, and it's not its purpose. Copyright's only function is to prohibit people from making copies of works, and its only purpose is to

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-13 Thread dguthrie
I think we should have copyright but not in such a way that impedes the free flow of information and culture. For instance I think there should always be a way for people to make sure that their name is always attached to their work, especially for arts and literature. If that were the case

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-13 Thread vitacell
Probably lab rats want to make a remake of a 20 years old game, or just keeps selling it as is, on new/old consoles or Steam. Look at Doom I and II, still selling, Doom3 too, + remakes of them, much very old games still selling. The bad is that people paying for DRM, handscuffs, they give

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread calmstorm
Let us just say I agree, digital restrictions are my biggest gripe though, though even proprietary software without those restrictions should have a very short life given that they become obsolete in less than 5-10 years. But moreover copyright is becoming like Donald trump. You may think

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread calmstorm
yep... As I always say though, Digital Restrictions Management is the biggest menace of proprietary software. still software licenses lasting 70 years? what idiot was on crack when they thought that up... Someone was snoring at the wheel to do something that insane and moronic.

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread vitacell
Because they are proprietary lab rats.

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread onpon4
Scripts are a problem, but not the only problem. The entire Build engine is proprietary, as I mentioned, and would need to be replaced. Frankly, I don't think it's worth the effort.

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread onpon4
Copyright, if we even have it (I don't think we should), should not last 20 years at all. There's no need for a "forced free software license".

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread onpon4
JFSW uses the Build engine. The Build engine is proprietary. This is no different from e.g. a game made with Unity3D. I'm getting a sense of deja vu here.

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread calmstorm
I take it a step further, after 20 years any restrictions or digital restrictions as they are called should be completely lifted after 20 years. and it should be forced into some free software license. even if it is as small as the mit/x11 license.

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread commodore256
Oh, I didn't know how important in-engine scripting was to the FOSS community. Had I known that I wouldn't have said anything about Quake. What about a re-implementation of the asset scripts?

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread greatgnu
How can one still not release an engine that is over 20 years old is beyond my understanding, I mean I get the concept of greed, but still.. I want the source engine freed :(

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread commodore256
I thought JFSW was GPL

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread dguthrie
I think this might not be the place

Re: [Trisquel-users] PSA: Shadow Warrior is free (as in beer) today. (compatible with GPL Engine)

2016-09-12 Thread onpon4
What GPL engine? Last time I checked, the Build engine is under a custom license that prohibits non-commercial use and even distribution in any manner other than "the INTERNET".