Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread onpon4
Indeed. Wine isn't just something that runs Windows binaries; it's also a Windows API and DirectX implementation. Some people have actually ported software that depends on the Windows API to the OpenPandora by using Wine. XM Solitaire, for example. One Windows-dependent libre program I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread ewlabonte
I have no problem running that application in wine.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread tobias
I did *not* use Wine, after I switched to Libreboot, before I used Wine to reverse engineer some proprietary formats. One of those programs UTAU is written in VB6, now I am working on a free replacement using Qt5.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread strypey
One argument for including WINE is that it allows the use of hardware people already own and need to use (eg pedometers, digital audio recorders and cameras, cell phones), but that only works with the Windows drivers supplied. When I help someone transition from Windows to GNU/Linux, it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Handcuffed? What are you talking about? Nobody's suggesting nothing like it. Please don't spread FUD on purpose...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread mcz
I though the OP suggested that. Yeah, I mean removing it from the repos.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread davesamcdxv
There is free software only available with Wine some might want to use. If someone asks about how to install K-meleon onto Wine I think said someone will get quite a bit of help.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread travis
I don't believe saying WINE can be used to install non-free sofware is a valid argument. In using that same argument, we shouldn't be using Trisquel at all because with a few clicks you can manually install non-free software even without the use of WINE. Software freedom is important, and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread anthk
There are Windows only libre software and games (yeah, just search them) which can be run and *compiled* against WineLib.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread onpon4
I don't know about Visual Basic 6, but Mono has some sort of Visual Basic.NET support: http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/languages/visualbasic/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread anthk
Does Wine have a VB6 interpreter now?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread mcz
Ok I see what I did here, let me rephrase it : It reminds me of Magic Banana telling me on the forum that Trisquel doesn't prevent proprietary software installation, because that would be contrary to freedom, which makes sense to me. Having Wine removed from the repo would feel like being

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread ewlabonte
I created a piece of free software for my own use before I had discovered gnu/linux using Visual Basic. I still use that software. The only way I can run it is through Wine, and it runs very well through Wine. Please don't make me switch to a non-libre version of gnu/linux.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread onpon4
Disregard whether or not Wine is useful. Two facts: 1. Wine is libre and doesn't do anything to steer users toward using proprietary software. There's nothing wrong with it. 2. Ubuntu's repositories include Wine. There is no reason to remove a libre program from Trisquel's repository just

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread jason
Mark Weaver on WINE: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-03/msg01216.html But overall Chris Webber had a well-written reply: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-03/msg01267.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
But nobody suggested not allowing it, how would that be even possible, just removing it from the repos.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread mcz
what if you want to study a proprietary program in order to make an equal or better libre version? It reminds me of Magic Banana telling me on the forum that Tisquel doesn't prevent proprietary software installation, because that would be contrary to freedom.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread mcz
I'm saying the opposite. Or at least I tried. Sorry, English isn't my first language.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Wine should not be included in Trisquel

2016-04-15 Thread mcz
I though the OP suggested that. Yeah, I mean removing it from the repos.